D9 was just a spiritual sequel to Falling Down, just a guy being cool 😎
Why can't they do apolitical movies like They Live anymore. Just a good movie about a dude killing aliens, smdh
Isn't some of the intro footage literally non-fiction - people talking about apartheid policies? Just with enough context removed so that it also applies to the aliens.
Lol. But really don't know wtf they're on about, suspecting a wrecker of some sort
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But seriously what are you trying to accomplish. My deleted comment was just the word yes. I deleted it because I was probably incorrect. Then you come and just lie about it lol.
Most obvious wrecker behaviour, the deleted comment said "look at the name". Nothing to do with what you typed.
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I didn't defend Zuma back then, to be clear I don't like him and he deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail. I was just explaining why people still remain so loyal to him despite his horrible corruption and AIDS denialism.
Also my deleted comment was just the word "yes", I deleted it because I haven't watched the movie in a while and I'm probably incorrect
It's a new account stirring drama and misreading comments from the past to try something. My deleted comment above was just the word "yes" lmao
Also the username "magnificent Donald J Trump" lmaooo. Couldn't be more obvious. I'm sorry for all our comrades that have their pronouns abused like this. Report and move on I guess
To be fair I got that it was about something, but not about what when I first saw it. Then I saw it again and it hit really fucking hard.
Didn't the director and/or writers come out and say that it was actually about more recent mistreatment of refugees in South Africa rather than being an allegory for the apartheid system? Like the movie is explicitly about racism and systemic abuses, just not the ones everyone jumps to when they think about South Africa?
It's about both the xenophobia that peeked in the late 2000s, and rears its head from time to time, and apartheid really. The name "district 9" comes from the very real district 6 that existed in Cape Town during apartheid.
The movie was filmed in areas of South Africa that had experienced xenophobic attacks, and where people were forcefully being relocated from shacks and informal structures to RDP government housing. (Alexandra and Soweto to be exact). These areas currently look like a warzone with army patroling in armoured vehicles and burnt down shops due to the civil unrest spiked by the arrest of corrupt ex president Jacob Zuma.
Also the dystopian looking concrete tower (Ponte Tower) has been renovated and cleaned now. It's not a terrible place to live anymore filled with the worst kinds of criminal gangs like it was in the past. It's actually pretty alright now.
Thanks for elaborating, I couldn't remember any more than the bit about refugees.
Also the dystopian looking concrete tower (Ponte Tower) has been renovated and cleaned now
Is that the infamous one that provided the sort of open center and mixed residential-commercial design that gets mimicked a lot as an arcology/hab-block in cyberpunk stories? If so I remember reading about that, how bad it had gotten and what went into fixing it up and renovating it.
CW: Criminal activity, drugs, sexual violence
Yeah it's that one. It got pretty bad. There was a large trash pile in the middle a few stories high. Sex trafficking, drugs, criminal gangs, etc occupied most of the building during the early to mid 2000s. If you wanted to solicit a prostitute or get hard drugs like cocaine, tik, heroin, etc that was the place to go. But then the tower fell under new ownership and the criminal and gang activity was kicked out after a few years of legal battles, police corruption, raids etc, and the building cleaned up. The new ownership invested a ton of money into the building. After years of work it's as good as a dystopian looking apartment complex in the middle of Johannesburg can get. Now a local radio presenter even owns an apartment there.
I mean, honestly that makes more sense. Apartheid was a 2 tiered system, but the lower racial caste were a source of labor for a white supremacist society, not just a problem to be exterminated.
The whole point is that it represents both. The name of the movie being based on an actual district which evicted everyone to create a whites only neighborhood during apartheid (district 6) and the film being filmed at locations that recently experienced xenophobic violence and forced evictions at the time is no coincidence. The whole point is that you can replace "prawn" in the dialogue with that of any oppressed peoples, to understand what is going on.
A topic in American history
It will be about Trump getting banned from twitter
Fingers crossed that it's the Teapot Dome scandal but with aliens
Friends, y'all need to understand that this is exactly why movies and music don't do a great job of radicalizing or politically educating people who aren't already moving left. First, most media is reactionary and actively pushes the other side (cop shows, military movies, spy movies, superhero movies, etc). Second, think about how many people saw Parasite or Children of Men and walked away without understanding the criticism of class and capital in it. The reality of living under 24/7 propaganda means you need the point explicitly spelled out to you and connected to your immediate life or else its too easy to ignore.
A great example of this is the segment in bo burnham's special talking about the function of capital
That's one instance where it is explicitly spelled out, and people still think it's a joke
Alternative explanation (warning, doomer): people understand that explicit criticisms of capitalism are sincere, and for most "apolitical" people, pointing out exactly how everything is fucked up is tedious because it's so obvious. No one outside the Beltway and the boardrooms still believes the current system is progressing towards some kind of End of History as such. It's just there's currently no solution that they can take seriously. Nihilistic humor isn't "ironic," for most it's a sincere expression of resignation.
When irony becomes indistinguishable from sincerity it becomes post-irony. It has become mighty prevalent in the 21st century due to the rise of autism which makes it harder to distinguish between irony and sincerity. When someone says "I guess I'll just die" when complaining about unaffordable medical, housing, retirement, and living costs, the statement itself is true but the person saying it does not say it in earnest. It's gallows humor, not nihilism. Nihilism completely forgoes humor which is what irony is, a nihilist would say "I want to die" when faced with the sane situation.
Talk to people outside left circles. Theyre not even aware that there could be an alternative. Capitalism is the background assumption. Communism is so outside the pale that they don't even consider it. They, by default, think of market solutions when asked about how we should fix some problem. It's hard to overstate how dominant this ideology is. Even if someone is not neoliberal or anti big multi national corporations, they still aren't leftists.
https://youtu.be/oDQXFNWuZj8
It hurts to see people missing the point this much 🙃
Although I think certain pieces of media helped radicalize me(DS9, MGS, and Code Geass), they only worked because they were introducing me to concepts such as violent extremism being okay if used for good reasons, or exactly how backwards the world we live in is. Without the other things in life, they would have been just noise or may even have been part of a rightward shift.
and Code Geass
God that anime was good. Like, it wasn't Marxist or anything but it was genuinely fucking revolutionary like nothing else. I remember it being compared to Death Note all the fucking time. Kira was just a reactionary 4chan troll compared to our based revolutionary stick boi.
I love how the first opening is one of the best OPs ever, and all the rest are unlistenable. One of the most interesting differences between Light and Lelouch is that Light is only able to stay ahead of the police because he has an untraceable supernatural power that takes him out of the line of fire completely, and he constantly gets help from his girlfriend or tricks his dad into telling him something. Lelouch has one ability that doesn't even even the playing field because several of his enemies also have geass, and it can be traced to him and he has to get close to his target to use it, and he is fighting almost 3/4 of the world simultaneously. So, Lelouch is actually the genius strategist while Light would have achieved nothing without constant supernatural aid. Also obviously Lelouch was based and ending colonialism and imperialism while Light was trying to become the ubercop.
I saw code geass when I was your average young lib and it was just entertainment for me, unfortunately. Watching it now I'm like "how did I miss these themes" but clearly I did. Most of my friends saw it too but none took anything political away from it. I remember watching Parasite with some lib friends and thinking it would at least get through to them for a minute but they all (despite being your average worker) identified with the rich owners while occasionally feeling sympathy for the poor family during the flooding scenes.
When I first watched it I realised that Lelouch was right, revolution was essential even though it would be bloody. Watching it a second time I have no idea how I ever thought Suzaku had a point. He is just the epitome of liberalism. "I need to kill people for fascists to show that killing is wrong."
arrived a couple minutes late to District 9 and had to sit way up in the one of the closest front rows to the screen, that combined with the shaky cam means all I associate with the movie is nausea
All the shaky cam stuff was filmed on an actual shitty Sony camcorder, so at least it's real and not some crappy post effects or CGI.
So many people can't see a message in something unless it is explicitly said. I mean, there are people who think that a character doing something objectively bad, while not being criticized in the narrative, must mean that the viewer is supposed to identify with them.
Sometimes I think the old Opera trope where the spirit of Equality or whatever does a full Picard speech to the audience about The. Main. Moral. Of. The. Story. for 15 min at the start of every show is the only way.
i hope in this one the aliens come back and carpet bomb the Earth
