Almost a good expansion pack.
As usual, HOI4 does some great man of history BS that feeds into pop-culture understandings of history rather than trying to portray the events themselves. I guess you could say that they're trying to make interesting gameplay decisions around the purges, but it sounds like everything boils down to "spend your political power now or risk losing random government advisors/generals later", which is hardly a compelling choice.
TBH once I got good enough at HOI4 to beat it, it got boring fast, and the fanbase has proven themselves time and again to be better historical CYOA writers than the Paradox devs.
It's just a minor thing in this article, but there's this Western fetish for the balkanisation of China. Every rebellion in China must be imagined as if it could have been successful (there's no Bavarian Soviet Republic in this game, for contrast) and the territory claims of the Republic of China must be delegitimized in favor of warlords and Imperial Japan. Somehow, the Western norms of state sovereignty don't apply here.
she was an integral part of the early hexbear experience, feeling really nostalgic now.
US paranoia during the McCarthyist 1950s made Stalin look like a naif in comparison
Among the "lesser" classes, yes. Among the ruling class and petit-bourgeoisie, who perpetuated it, it was one of the best investments they'd ever made.
Are there any mods that portray Soviet history well?
Great Man BS aside, I'm not really that bothered by this, given how much worse it could have been handled, seeing PDX's treatment of Socialism/Communism in general. At least it's not HOI4 now, where "Stalin is a big evil doo-doo head but also there's a civil war if he isn't enough of one". The biggest worry is that the gameplay is going to just end up dull, since not having your best advisors and generals purged at the cost of some mana is the obvious choice.
(Also, obligatory "Stalin did bad stuff and shouldn't be uncritically lionized" take)
The purges were largely nonsensical and based on farce so I don't see many other ways they could've handled it
I mean, some was paranoia and people getting caught in the witchhunt (Stalin, Beria, and Yezhov all admitted this in private correspondence), some was actual treason, quite a bit was German intelligence having completely hacked the NKVD.
Libs think that a Socialist revolution in a country dominated by the Russian Orthodox Church and literal monarchists running Pogroms for Jewish people wouldn't have a massive and ongoing counter-revolution for decades.
Liberals unironically think that the Whites and the Nazis phased out of existence after their armies scattered. No object permanence.
No, that's anti-Communist garbage. Read Origins of the Great Purges.
Origins of the Great Purges
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http://library.lol/main/202D73A751817E9D047121E74D02671C
you have a real argument or you just gonna spew trot/CIA shit lmao
stalin wasnt the reason for why the soviet union fell but hes purges played a part in creating an incapable and opressive state
I wouldn't even say that because you didn't even link to an actual source in the first place. Could you make it any more obvious that you just googled it because you're going off cultural osmosis, instead of having any sources?
youre denying that the purges even happened why would i even give a shit about what you think
It randomly struck me when I was driving like 15 minutes ago that this person was Enver lol
the way "wrecker" is used here is bizarre basically nothing is allowed expect stalinism or maoism evere wonder why anarchism sub is dead?
because you fucking banned everyone for not liking assad
i hate how "communism" is basically stalinism
basically you and all the other insane tankies have adopted the agenda that was brought against the soviet union and the evil communist agenda
theres a few references to historical sources elaborating on the question you struggle with what about fucking reading on them instead of chatting shit
The Veganism struggle session was legitimately wild and I wish you were here for it.
fucking middle school grasp of history, can't cite anything but the most accessible possible CIA edited resource, shift immediately to ad hominem, obvious fucking wrecker.
what do you want me to cite youre a fuckign stalinist i doesnt matter
lmao nice deflection, continued lack of substance. see 'origin of the great purges', another poster so graciously put up a link to. look up what albert einstein had to say about them even.
but nah you'd rather trust the nazi-hiring capitalist west and the post-soviet oligarchs about the guy they all hated and constantly tried to undermine the government of.
Capitalists subverting a communist state? sounds unrealistic must have been fucking paranoia lmfao
blaa blaa blaa we have a completely different wiev on "democracy"
why do you insist on defending stalin
lmao because he presided over the defeat of the fucking nazis, created one of the greatest improvements in living standards ever to have been seen in europe, if not the world, and he makes shitlibs like you piss themselves in terror despite the decades of lies spread by america and their literal nazi propagandists. i bet you believe that the holodomor was a genocide. go ahead cite gulag archipelago next.
he's not a fucking saint or anything but by far better than any american president or european minister, and did it during the worst war the world has ever seen. i hope you end up in an 'authoritarian' state that provides you healthcare, housing, and education to undo the decades of american sponsored nazi propaganda.
he was worse than modern presidents he had more power and could have actually steered the soviet union away from dacay but alas
lmao no one mentioned democracy, but since you started i will point out stalin was elected by a representative body just like any american president was
yes, you called him a dictator when he did not exercise any power a western leader didn't exercise during the war.
youre so out of touch with reality it is better for my mental health that i dont reply to
sorry i didn't get my history from american middle schol and then stop researching anything at all
youre so fucking mad because i dont buy into yu´r stalinists shit
The will of the Syrian people in their struggle against imperialism.
why do you insist on defending stalin
Why do you insist on not budging on your childish view of recent history and giving the opposing side a fair shake? Like why is it so hard to entertain the idea that maybe you weren't given a full picture of Stalin when you (I would assume) admit you weren't given the full picture about socialism and communism in general? How are you so certain of your perception of Stalin when you have had (again, presumably) your perception of leftism drastically changed?
Bro you unironically cited wikipedia, just shut the fuck up or go to /r/vaush or whatever
youre defending dictators online and im against that im doing more political activism in week than you will in your entire life
i think its fucking insane the amount of time YOU put out for defending murderers
considering how fucking mad you got at me for implying stalin is a psycopath i hope youre going to think about this for the rest of the week
lmfao go back to :reddit-logo: you complete moron, your wrecking is too transparent
This argument is not about whether or not the purges happened. That's not what anyone was disputing
Not even dignifying that. You made specific claims, and when people challenged you on them you jumped back to more general claims you could defend more easily.
This is super transparent, come on now.
how about you purge me like stalin did with the ethnic minorities
Roughly 1000% chance you're one of the people that thinks "kulak" is an ethnicity
:duck-dance:
My ethnicity is Ukrainian Landlord and my culture is price gouging The Poors to death during our regular ancestral famines and creating pogroms for The Jews.
:fash-mad:
Mein Führer, my country yearns for freedom!
even bougie historial steve kotkin agrees that the trot-nazi fifth olumn was a valid concern
The original hoi4 made the purges necessary to avoid civil war.
"Making stuff more anti-communist is good" – Intelligent and rational socialist.
fucking love this stalinist shit here completely disconnected from real world i guess thats why you can say that assad should never step down
The (in)famous and anti-communist CBTS mod does that too, weirdly.
Raskova's Aviation Group
:lets-fucking-go:
Excited that the soviets will finally have a good tree after all this time.
I usually go Trotsky for the memes anyway, guess we'll see how that alternate paths turn out.
