All HR departments know is protect company, ignore applications, send form emails, eat hot chip and lie
Because how else is the hr department going to automatically ignore your application because you didn’t use the right keywords
The trick is to have easy apply enabled but the instruction is that only applications sent by carrier pigeon are reviewed.
I have applied to multiple “easy apply” jobs for them to turn around and invite me to apply on their website.
My favorite was a company that made a sketchy personality test for hiring whose process was you had to do their sketchy personality test first. I'm pretty sure their job postings were fake and this was just their way of getting data on the test.
One of the things you learn as you get older is that looking for a job is a lot like looking for a date. Apps are good for a fling, but you really need a referral before you're going to get into a long-term relationship.
Those have always been terrible. I am sad they’re making a comeback recently.
Our HR literally counts out a percentage and dumps it in the bin. Competitive applicants, my arse.
And then if you're not ignored and somehow pass the screening, there's the dreaded "technical interview", which is becoming a thing in many fields now after being popularised in the IT, programming and software development hiring process. Basically make grown ass adults who already have degrees take an exam with an extremely stringent time limit. No way this could lead to biases against neurodivergent people or those with physical or mental disabilities, no way at all.
I do honestly wonder if that's why my applications were ignored back in the mid 2010's. Like, right out of technical school with a bunch of licenses and then nothing... Hell, even the garbage jobs like Starbucks were ignoring me.
I spoke with a recruiter I kinda knew once about this and his answer was basically "we don't want anyone who isn't willing to jump through the hoops we ask them to." It's literally just to weed out people they think are "too lazy" to do it.
It's funny though, because he was asking me to apply to the company he was recruiting for when he told me this, and I laughed and said well, I don't want to work for any companies who are willing to waste my time. I didn't apply. I'm happy with the job I easy applied for instead.
"Our ideal candidate is one who has as little respect for their time as we do."
this is toxic relationship advice bs
what next? they flirt with other candidates in front of you to see if you get jealous and fight for them?
This, but unironically. My current company lined up three different candidates for a job I needed them to fill, fully knowing that the guy I advised they hire was the only remotely competent pick. They just had to do a show of sizing up other contenders so they could report to their higher ups that "We looked at three people and this one was the best".
when do they do the fake break-up to see how much the candidate comes running back?
Lmao fuckin gottem.
I can only imagine how frustrating that was though. Glad you found something good!
If they want someone who doesn’t care about wasting time, I’ll be glad to do so as much as possible
Nepotism filter. Look we need to put on a circus about applicants to "look fair" but we're hiring the manager's son.
That's only true to an extent, as I see this shit most commonly in smaller businesses and the biggest factor tends to be the lack of professionalized HR.
At some point, you need trained professionals who can do actual work. It can't just be nepos all the way down. But if the HR person still thinks everyone gets their jobs on Monster.com then... shrug Yeah, you're going to get a bunch of backwards, ill-managed, shitty For-Hire online posts. More often than not, people just have no idea how to interface with the modern suite of HR systems.
Are you telling me you don't want to spend a hour copying your resume to a bunch of text boxes?
I was willing to do that for my local county (since I'm trying to get a job with them).
But damn, just to get a wide berth with your job-search, you often have to do it multiple times and it sucks.
there should be a government department where all companies have to register all vacancies and people can have their cv uploaded so they can just click apply
the bourgeoisie actively lobby against measures which would bring about full employment because it would erode the reserve army of labor, and make it harder to do mass firings or bring in scabs against unionization efforts. There is nothing that makes them more afraid than everyone having a job even though they call themselves "job creators." They're really just gatekeepers keeping people from jobs and driving down wages to the lowest possible level.
this actually wouldn't provide full employment but we should also absolutely do that
Capitalism just makes life difficult and incentivizes bullshit
yeah there are companies that other companies hire to provide the service I'm describing and they don't want a solution to the problem they're paid to solve
My materalistic analysis has brought me to the conclusion that if HR didn't act like they're the great filter to the unwashed masses, which is pretty much not a thing anymore as per jobs, they'd have to actually do stuff and who wants to to do that
much easier to pretend this is an employers market and then cry about how the country is going down the shitter because people with options (so, increasingly most of them) don't apply for your shitty jobs
Capitalism? Being the economic system that rewards laziness? Why I never!
That's my assumption, applied to the same hospital network like a dozen times over the last 3 years and I get immediately filtered within minutes even in off hours.
They're building databases to draw upon when they make you register and make accounts. It's the pointless accumulation we see throughout capitalism where the goal is just to grow something that will ultimately waste time and resources.
Yeah this is the real rub of it. Companies want big databases of names and phone numbers.
Reactionaries stopped caring about their information being taken by sketchy entities and adopted the narrative of 'people don't want to work anymore'.
As long as it's not the government collecting their information and making them jump through hoops, they don't care.
It's wild seeing how corporations get more of a pass while giving less in return.
If anyone has job-hunting advice, I'm all ears.
I'm trying to avoid more retail work, for starters, and I'm almost done with my degree.
Anecdotal, but last time I was job hunting I had a significantly higher call back rate when applying through the companys listing for the job on their website instead of places like indeed or LinkedIn. Idk if it's true but I read that job boards will scrape listings from each other/company websites and make an easy apply that goes nowhere to create the illusion that more places use their service. So you could easy apply to 10 jobs and maybe actually only apply to like 6 real ones.
That said I ended up getting a job from a staffing company that cold called me about a job I'd applied for and then got ghosted by the interviewer for previously.
You don't need a job directly related to your certification of debt and mental torture. How is your interests and skill set related? Do you think you have the ability to do it? Apply and see what happens.
Are... you sure?
Huh. To be honest, I feel like you'd have to get to know the person hiring before you can even attempt that, but I'll take your word for it and see what happens then...
You basically need to get a referral or a foot in the door to stand a chance in the modern job market. Interviewing well is also important, I interview like trash so I can't give advice here.
I interview well so I won't worry about that for now.
But yeah, having a "foot in the door," as you say, is a must, or at least a damn good advantage.
I've gotten jobs on Indeed, they scan your CV into their own format and it makes it easy. I only apply to the ones that do the one click application, it's nice. A corporation has done something good for once, now we need to nationalize it and have it managed by a department of labor and economic planning.
Adding on to this: why is there not some sort of QC on postings at most job sites? I tick the box on Indeed that says "entry level" and the first three positions that pop up are fucking senior dev/team lead positions.
Checking the box for "within 30 miles" of my location... and shit comes up that is over 1,000 miles away.
Checking the box to try to sort by the date the posting was first listed and after a few pages finding job postings that are years old from large business chains mixed in with postings for the same position with the same description posted a few weeks ago.
Posting "ghost positions" should be a clubbable offense.
Ziprecruiter has honestly been one of my only reliable job-finding experiences in this modern era.
