• quarrk [he/him]
    ·
    1 year ago

    As a Korean American, my family and I are eternally grateful that the US got involved in the Korean War

    bird-screm-2

    Americans grasping for whatever moral authority they can so they don’t have to understand history

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
    ·
    1 year ago

    In addition, modern historical research is proving that the idea of American presence in Vietnam wasn't as terrible as previously thought while also proving that the North Vietnamese and Viet-Cong weren't as noble as most people think.

    Goddamn the bootlicking. Also, what kind of mealy mouthed phrasing is “the idea of American presence?” Is this some sort of “in our hypothetical, Vietnam becoming a puppet state of America would’ve turned out okie-dokie” nonsense?

      • voight [he/him, any]
        ·
        1 year ago

        The Phoenix Program_ America's Use of Terror in Vietnam (2014, Open Road Media) - Valentine, Douglas.epub 2.4 MB https://files.catbox.moe/yhbhn4.epub

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
    ·
    1 year ago

    I'm gonna be honest. I don't know enough about 90% of these to be confident in my answers.

    Only honest person in the thread, all the rest don’t know anything either, but that doesn’t stop them from spewing bullshit.

    Defending Korea, Iraq and even the bombing of Cambodia gulag

    • VapeNoir [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      Its so fucking funny that the average pronouns-in-bio-blue-reaganite has exactly the same opinions as a rabid bircher from 1978.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      What did this fucking fascist want them to do in Yemen and Cambodia, just genocide harder?

      • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
        ·
        1 year ago

        Look sweaty, dropping more bombs on them than the allies dropped on Nazi Germany wasn't enough, you just don't understand but if america had just dropped more bombs it would have worked! They just didn't kill and maim enough people! Too many babies were being born without birth defects! They were able to walk through their fields without fear of unexploded ordnance blowing them up!

    • the_kid
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      these people deserve to be handed over to an ISIS cell

      • GinAndJuche
        ·
        1 year ago

        Why outsource? I’m sure we can produce sufficiently cathartic punishments domestically. Much like how Israel and the west created isis to begin with.

    • Adkml [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      Saying bay of pigs didn't go far enough is funny because using it as a metaphor has been literally the only thing that has gotten a couple liberals I've talked to to see there's more to ukraine than "Russia is literally just evil and wants to take over the world" because America's justification for everything its done to Cuba is russias justification for what's happening in Ukraine, except its actually real in the later case.

    • wahwahwah [none/use name]
      ·
      1 year ago

      It’s gotten to the point that I can’t separate shit posts from posts like this.

      • TheCaconym [any]
        ·
        1 year ago

        Usually in cases like these I assume it's ignorance; but here we're talking about people that proudly call themselves "neoliberals" (in fact I still can't believe that sub exists and isn't a dunk sub) so I'm gonna say both.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
    ·
    1 year ago

    I'd have voted yes for Vietnam given that I'm from South Vietnam.

    IIn addition, modern historical research is proving that the idea of American presence in Vietnam wasn't as terrible as previously thought while also proving that the North Vietnamese and Viet-Cong weren't as noble as most people think.

    I just can't find an appropriate response to this. I just can't.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
    ·
    1 year ago

    I doubt a single one of them could give a reasonably historically accurate explanation of the origins and causes of WWI.

  • HornyOnMain
    ·
    1 year ago

    actually, its bad to say that the organisation of british colonial subjects is led by britain

    Show

    • huf [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      ukraine joining the last crumbling remnant of the british empire in TYOOL 2024 would be extremely funny.

      • HornyOnMain
        ·
        1 year ago

        Ukraine: please can we have NATO membership?

        Britain: but we already have NATO membership at home

        The NATO membership at home:

    • Tunnelvision [they/them]
      ·
      1 year ago

      There were suggestions of Ukraine joining apparently.

      Bruh that would have started world war 3

      • CTHlurker [he/him]
        ·
        1 year ago

        Britain doesn't have nuclear weapons so it'll be a quick one at least.

          • CTHlurker [he/him]
            ·
            1 year ago

            Britain decided that nukes were too expensive to maintain, so their GPS-targetting system doesn't work without express permission from the Americans.

            https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-trident-nuclear-program/

            • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
              ·
              1 year ago

              “If the US pulled the plug on the UK nuclear program, Trident would be immediately unable to fire, making the submarines little more than expensive, undersea follies.”

              michael-laugh

              holy shit, i had no idea it was that bad

              • CTHlurker [he/him]
                ·
                1 year ago

                Yeah, that's the reason why I said that the UK doesn't actually have nukes. They have all the expenses of trying to maintain a nuclear programme, but with none of the effective deterrence.

                • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  fair, i knew the americans had a big role in trident, but i didn't know they could just turn the nukes off lol

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
      ·
      1 year ago

      commonwealth

      I just realized this is like the "democratic peoples republic" thing that libs accuse communist states of doing, except it's actually fake this time

  • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
    ·
    1 year ago

    Of course it is, for them, a ground war that doesn't have any accusations of war crime getting hurled at it is like. Pre-gaming for them. Foreplay before the main event. Source: have you seen the way they were pumping their murder-bones over Ukraine and Israel?

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
    ·
    1 year ago

    I know "no war but the class war" is just a reductive slogan but goddamn sometimes I just don't have the energy to argue with these chuds. Exhausting people. Moral black holes.

    • kot
      ·
      edit-2
      5 months ago

      deleted by creator

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
        ·
        1 year ago

        True words spoken. It's like running into a person that doesn't bother with the "libertarian" euphemism and self identifies as an anarcho-capitalist. The warning siren music from Kill Bill starts to play in my head and I nope outta there.

  • HighOnCopium [she/her]
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    ya war is fine as along as it doesn’t affect me and my family personally or if it’s us who’s doing the slaughtering

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
    ·
    1 year ago

    It's pretty wild how neolibs are still convinced that 90% of Russia's military has been wiped out and that Ukraine has been kicking their ass. Westerners are masters of delusion.

  • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
    ·
    1 year ago

    Rage, rage for these people saying "People who don't support Kosovo intervention just don't know what it's about." And the clown who said that Grenada made a national holiday to support the US invading and overthrowing their communist government. Gee I wonder why the government installed by the US would celebrate that?

  • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
    ·
    1 year ago

    Has the US intervened in the Yemeni civil war outside of arms sales? Obviously it’s still bad that America is supplying the Saudis but I thought it was limited to that

    • CrimsonSage [any]
      ·
      1 year ago

      As I understand it we are supplying technical "expertise" which I suspect we have mechanics and engineers on the ground keeping the f-35's flying after they fall apart after each mission.

  • CascadeOfLight [he/him]
    ·
    1 year ago

    To clarify a point about that struggle session a while ago:

    this is the "first world" against which unlimited genocide is declared qin-shi-huangdi-fireball