As a Korean American, my family and I are eternally grateful that the US got involved in the Korean War
Americans grasping for whatever moral authority they can so they don’t have to understand history
In addition, modern historical research is proving that the idea of American presence in Vietnam wasn't as terrible as previously thought while also proving that the North Vietnamese and Viet-Cong weren't as noble as most people think.
Goddamn the bootlicking. Also, what kind of mealy mouthed phrasing is “the idea of American presence?” Is this some sort of “in our hypothetical, Vietnam becoming a puppet state of America would’ve turned out okie-dokie” nonsense?
Those Viet Cong were no angels while the U.S. dropped napalm and Agent Orange over their villages.
Using chemical defoliants on their farmland could have been worse!
The Phoenix Program_ America's Use of Terror in Vietnam (2014, Open Road Media) - Valentine, Douglas.epub 2.4 MB https://files.catbox.moe/yhbhn4.epub
I'm gonna be honest. I don't know enough about 90% of these to be confident in my answers.
Only honest person in the thread, all the rest don’t know anything either, but that doesn’t stop them from spewing bullshit.
Defending Korea, Iraq and even the bombing of Cambodia
Its so fucking funny that the average pronouns-in-bio-blue-reaganite has exactly the same opinions as a rabid bircher from 1978.
What did this fucking fascist want them to do in Yemen and Cambodia, just genocide harder?
Look sweaty, dropping more bombs on them than the allies dropped on Nazi Germany wasn't enough, you just don't understand but if america had just dropped more bombs it would have worked! They just didn't kill and maim enough people! Too many babies were being born without birth defects! They were able to walk through their fields without fear of unexploded ordnance blowing them up!
boots on the ground, nation building, give pol pot nukes
Why outsource? I’m sure we can produce sufficiently cathartic punishments domestically. Much like how Israel and the west created isis to begin with.
Saying bay of pigs didn't go far enough is funny because using it as a metaphor has been literally the only thing that has gotten a couple liberals I've talked to to see there's more to ukraine than "Russia is literally just evil and wants to take over the world" because America's justification for everything its done to Cuba is russias justification for what's happening in Ukraine, except its actually real in the later case.
It’s gotten to the point that I can’t separate shit posts from posts like this.
Usually in cases like these I assume it's ignorance; but here we're talking about people that proudly call themselves "neoliberals" (in fact I still can't believe that sub exists and isn't a dunk sub) so I'm gonna say both.
I'd have voted yes for Vietnam given that I'm from South Vietnam.
IIn addition, modern historical research is proving that the idea of American presence in Vietnam wasn't as terrible as previously thought while also proving that the North Vietnamese and Viet-Cong weren't as noble as most people think.
I just can't find an appropriate response to this. I just can't.
this guy's parents lived in South Vietnam and fled because of the war. i can guarantee this guy hasn't stepped foot in 'south vietnam'
I doubt a single one of them could give a reasonably historically accurate explanation of the origins and causes of WWI.
actually, its bad to say that the organisation of british colonial subjects is led by britain
Show
ukraine joining the last crumbling remnant of the british empire in TYOOL 2024 would be extremely funny.
Ukraine: please can we have NATO membership?
Britain: but we already have NATO membership at home
The NATO membership at home:
The Indigenous Australians volunteered to be massacred, sweaty 💅😤
There were suggestions of Ukraine joining apparently.
Bruh that would have started world war 3
Britain doesn't have nuclear weapons so it'll be a quick one at least.
Britain decided that nukes were too expensive to maintain, so their GPS-targetting system doesn't work without express permission from the Americans.
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-trident-nuclear-program/
“If the US pulled the plug on the UK nuclear program, Trident would be immediately unable to fire, making the submarines little more than expensive, undersea follies.”
holy shit, i had no idea it was that bad
Yeah, that's the reason why I said that the UK doesn't actually have nukes. They have all the expenses of trying to maintain a nuclear programme, but with none of the effective deterrence.
fair, i knew the americans had a big role in trident, but i didn't know they could just turn the nukes off lol
Remember the Trashfuture bit where Milo argued that the UK is the only actually right wing country. Every other right wing project spends massive amounts of money on their millitary and their police, but the UK is so ideologically committed to austerity that they even did it to their imperial peacekeepers. Turns out they even did austerity to their nuclear programme, which is definitely a unique strategy.
liberal imperialists are so funny. they want all the spoils of empire with none of the moral culpability.
commonwealth
I just realized this is like the "democratic peoples republic" thing that libs accuse communist states of doing, except it's actually fake this time
Of course it is, for them, a ground war that doesn't have any accusations of war crime getting hurled at it is like. Pre-gaming for them. Foreplay before the main event. Source: have you seen the way they were pumping their murder-bones over Ukraine and Israel?
I know "no war but the class war" is just a reductive slogan but goddamn sometimes I just don't have the energy to argue with these chuds. Exhausting people. Moral black holes.
True words spoken. It's like running into a person that doesn't bother with the "libertarian" euphemism and self identifies as an anarcho-capitalist. The warning siren music from Kill Bill starts to play in my head and I nope outta there.
ya war is fine as along as it doesn’t affect me and my family personally or if it’s us who’s doing the slaughtering
It's pretty wild how neolibs are still convinced that 90% of Russia's military has been wiped out and that Ukraine has been kicking their ass. Westerners are masters of delusion.
Rage, rage for these people saying "People who don't support Kosovo intervention just don't know what it's about." And the clown who said that Grenada made a national holiday to support the US invading and overthrowing their communist government. Gee I wonder why the government installed by the US would celebrate that?
Has the US intervened in the Yemeni civil war outside of arms sales? Obviously it’s still bad that America is supplying the Saudis but I thought it was limited to that
US crews were also doing the ground maintainence on the US craft the Sauidis were using
also the cia is definitely conducting operations there, but that's never counted in these things
As I understand it we are supplying technical "expertise" which I suspect we have mechanics and engineers on the ground keeping the f-35's flying after they fall apart after each mission.
To clarify a point about that struggle session a while ago:
is the "first world" against which unlimited genocide is declared 
