New vegan struggle just dropped

  • MarxistMaths [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I'm not even vegan but am thoroughly looking forward to the meat and dairy industries crashing and burning over the next decade. Love me some farmer's tears.

    Edit: "farmer's provide food" - that's the point - they won't be providing food much longer! They're about to go out of business.

    Even if they don't - the farmers don't make the food - the people who are exploited by the farmers do - and I love them as much as any worker, and their skills I'm sure will be appreciated.

    FWIW, farmer's in my country (owners, as opposed to farmworkers) are by and large fascist scum, petty small business owners, or major companies. They've spent much of the last year crying about policies designed to tackle climate change, spreading transphobia, and/or coming up with creative new misogynistic insults for our "communist" (actually a tragic lib) prime minister. I celebrate their demise. I hope their workers rise up against them. I hope they never make a cent of profit again.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sarahhbickerton/status/1415850447370215424

      • notaleph [she/her]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        As always, the ones who deserve it are furthest from it

              • mars [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                Never heard someone refer to the impoverished, mostly immigrant underclass of landless, at-will, underpaid, often migrant workers on farms as "farmers"

          • notaleph [she/her]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            Ehh, its a heavily consolidated field, thats heavily reliant on exploitative labour, and has been the wedge voting bloc in the coalition.

            Im not shedding too many tears here. Rich get richer yada yada

              • notaleph [she/her]
                hexagon
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                3 years ago

                ahh, a non australian i see. The conservative Liberals hold coalition with the even conservativer Nationals to form the Liberal National Party which has for the past... 10? years? has held power and still blamed the fuckups on everyone but themselves, if they even acknowledge the fuckup in the first place, if they havent already spun the fuckup as a win.

                • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Oh, right. Not an aussie no.

                  But my point was that if we are going to build socialism it's probably not a good idea to alienate the people who provide us with food.

                  "Love me some farmer's tears" is just an objectively bad take that we should not be applauding. The vast majority of farmers on the planet are not corporate scum wading in money.

                  • mars [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    Idk like every LATAM revolution screws farmers by attempting to redistribute land away from them to the people actually working the land, the exploited. I'm fine with that.

          • MarxistMaths [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            You can use this logic to defend almost any business owner. Farmer = person who owns farm, exploits labour for profit.

      • MarxistMaths [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Great take actually, fuck farmers - along with every other land and/or business owner. :marx-joker:

      • star_wraith [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        But at least in the US, farmers are literally landlords. Even relatively small farmers - I knew a guy who inherited his "small" family farm... he did some work on it but it was mostly exploited laborers. Dude owned like 4 SUVs and took 2-3 vacations a year to Europe or the South Pacific for weeks at a time.

      • apparitionist [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Ag-gag laws are anti-whistleblower laws that apply within the agriculture industry. The term typically refers to state laws in the United States of America that forbid undercover filming or photography of activity on farms without the consent of their owner—particularly targeting whistleblowers of animal rights abuses at these facilities.[1] Although these laws originated in the United States, they have also begun to appear elsewhere, such as in Australia and France.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag-gag

    • notaleph [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Nooo you cant take our blood and death from us nooo

      • Reversi [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Sap is plant blood, and you have to kill plants to harvest them completely

        ... Everyone wins, I guess

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Animal offal macerated and processed beyond recognition into a patty shape = BURGER

    Soy macerated and processed beyond recognition into a patty shape = NOT A BURGER

    Such fucking cope from the blood mouths who know their sales are dropping and that in the coming years most people won’t even be able to afford beef

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Also the fucking irony of people who raise and murder other living beings for profit calling ANYONE a parasite is just too much

    • notaleph [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      There was a puff piece yesterday about beef industry 'joining the fight' in curbing emissions lmao

  • MelaniaTrump [undecided]
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    3 years ago

    Meat products are so fucking expensive since 2020 and the vegan meats are now dirt cheap. Even bro types around here that want to save $ are buying vegan. The meat industry is toast without some neoliberal shitwad declaring the product can only be sold to qualifying low income WIC moms who live in economic opportunity zones

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Meat products are so fucking expensive since 2020 and the vegan meats are now dirt cheap. Even bro types around here that want to save $ are buying vegan

      Literally the exact opposite where I live.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I thought black bean burgers were better than meat burgers even before I went vegan.

    • 01100011101001111100 [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Dominos had a huge scandal back in the 00s because it was using vegan soy cheese instead of the dairy stuff. It made the swap because soy cheese was less expensive. Now vegan cheese is on par if not more expensive... kinda sucks. At least actual tofu and beans are still pretty cheap.

      • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
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        3 years ago

        Really? No vegan cheese I've had could really mimic dairy cheese. What kind were they using?

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is just so incredibly stupid. The selling point of vegan meat substitutes is that they're made from plants and consequently the labels scream that fact in the face of consumers: "Look at me! I'm like a schnitzel but I'm made entirely from soy!"

    Noone is going to buy that, believing they're buying meat.

  • ToastGhost [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    by farming groups they mean monsanto and farms with more square meters of conveyor belts than they have fields