You could power the entire planet off the sheer force it takes for them to hold contradictory ideas in their heads.

    • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Measure J was overturned by some rando fucking judge, and LAPD wants to hire like 3,000 more cops because of the Olympics. LA is probably the worst city on the planet

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Measure J was overturned by some rando fucking judge

        I swear to god the reason that direct democracy stuff exists in California is in order to de-legitimize the concept in Americans' minds. How can you imagine a world where the people have control over their own state when the example right in front of your face is a state that only lets the most horrible things through and actively blocks everything good?

        • machiabelly [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          It's mostly used to circumnavigate the legislature. That uber measure never would've passed through the state legislature but because of the horrid ad campaigns it passed as a prop. Ironically it got shot down in the courts I think but in general progressive economic or domestic policy doesn't get put into law through the props, but progressive social change and corporate and police expansion/deregulation does.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        LA is bizarre, like, the suburbs are like an interstate town just tiled on forever into a desert, interspersed with dying palms.

    • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Fresno increased their police budget by 6% and has seen murders triple in 2021. Similar story for many of the other cities that increased police funding. Always conveniently ignored by the blue lives matter crowd.

      • Deadend [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Just gotta keep increasing the police budget until whatever stat you want goes down. Because there obviously is a direct correlation between police budgets and crime. No other factors, nothing.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Serious criminologists actually argue that increased prison funding leads to increased crime. The issue is not a lack of funding

    • Jew [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That and "they're from out of state" are the two biggest coping lies people tell themselves.

    • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      even if it is a choice doesn't it say something when so many people are chosing to be homeless

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        Big Number Go Up: Fewer people choose to be homeless

        Big Number Go Down: More people choose to be homeless

        Crazy, right? Someone should get a sociologist on this or something.

  • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    they literally just want sanctuary districts, not an actual solution to homelessness or poverty

    • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      no. they want to annihilate the homeless. they don't give a shit what happens to the homeless after they're gone from downtown -- if they were being culled, these fools would call it 'fake news'

      • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I've always been operating on the assumption that the average conservative doesn't want the absolute liquidation of the homeless population, but would rather have them relocated to somewhere they could inevitably ignore. Idk tho, I've constantly underestimated the bloosthirstiness of the average american

        • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          what happens when you put a bunch of defenseless, marginalized people in a system where the population can safely ignore their plight?

          • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            I mean, you're entirely correct, there's very little functional difference between pushing marginalized people into some ignorable area and just outright massacring them. Conservatives will choose fascism as their solution every time, don't get me wrong. But that's the point: They can express some humanity in wanting poor people to improve while simultaneously enuring that this is impossible. They don't need to openly advocate for pogroms so long as the violence of poverty does that for them

            • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              to me, one of the most incomprehensible things people do is come up with these silly lies to tell themselves. maybe that's why they are happier and more succesful than i am

              • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                as a person who used to think that homeless people wanted to be homeless, it definitely is a general comfort to avoid ever considering that structural (and fixable) problems are the reason why we have issues in the first place.

          • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            I mean but that's it, right? It's not a conscious choice where they say "I want poor people to die" but rather subscribing to an ideology where poor people just happen to die and they get to look the other way and wash their hands.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          3 years ago

          relocated to somewhere they could inevitably ignore

          I don't want blood on my hands, I just want the ugly people to leave.

          Ok, now that I've reclassified them as foreigners, they're actually very strong and scary so please begin bombing immediately.

  • cresspacito [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    From "we shouldn't help homeless people, it's their fault" to "it's not people's fault the system fails them, they should get special treatment at humane mental health facilities"

    95% of people are can be leftists I s2g

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I love that she advocated public housing, realized what she'd said, and then did a 180 and clarified that she meant mental health institutions.

      I think what she meant is akin to halfway houses?

  • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    "My best friend photographs homeless people" imagine admitting this without a hint of shame or cringe

    • AvgMarighellaEnjoyer [he/him,any]
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      3 years ago

      it'd be fine if she followed up with like "to shed light on their struggle and humanize them" but instead she says "and they are animals!" lmao

  • NewAccountWhoDis [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Nobody wants to do drugs in the house anymore, now all the kids do is smoke they crack in the parking lot next to Walmart and the homeless shelter, back in the good old days we'd do it in mom's basement like God intended that's the difference between me and the homeless guy see

    Also gotta love the vague "mental health this, mental health that" WHAT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH? BE SPECIFIC

  • Kereru [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Sounded like she was arriving at a housing first public housing policy that includes essential support services. But maybe I'm being too generous, it seemed like she mostly wanted that so she didn't have to see homeless people when visiting the beach rather than viewing them as people lol

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      yeah it seemed like if you stripped away all the identity politics buzzwords team bullshit she could probably get on board with some kind of free housing with a bit of explanation, but the brainworms are rooted so deep

      it's frustrating knowing how close most of these shitwits are if only a century of propaganda didn't exist

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This isn't just conservatives. This stuff is the promoted by every media outlet. I've heard the "homeless people want to live on the street" repeated by 'liberal' media outlets too.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I've met homeless people who "chose" to live on the streets, but that was against the alternative of non profit housing where a property manager is breathing down your neck all the time and none of the appliances work.

        Others picked a pet or drugs over housing.

        Like, a tent offers some very real freedom that a lot of poor people can get nowhere else.

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Exactly. Most of the shelters have all sorts of requirements that you wouldn't put on other people. And shelters also suck because you often can't even stay there during the day or keep your stuff there or whatever. It's not really housing. I doubt most the same people would turn down an actual apartment flat.

          • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I'm not even talking about the warehouses people call shelters, I'm talking about the strings attached public housing that is what's accessible to the luckiest homeless folks.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think the guy just calls Andrew whenever there's a thing going on lol, it's like his blissfully ignorant informant

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    3 years ago

    it's amazing to watch them come to a realization of the pointless cruelty of the social order and then immediately drown it out with ideologically ingrained disgust for the powerless like 5 times a second.

    honestly you gotta keep me away from conservative bimbos because they'll say literally any stupid bullshit and i'll just be there nodding "yea damn that's crazy i never thought of it like that"

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I think the woman on the right could easily be flipped by a change in social circle tbh

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      You can literally see the point at which a natural sense of human decency slams up against political ideology.

    • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Normies want conservatives to be right so much.

      What conservatives lack in moral purity they make more than up for in charisma.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That's what they want, but what she's describing is just social housing because describing a concentration camp is just too much for them to handle when they still think they're good people.

      If someone was like "we're gonna build social housing for the homeless" though, she'd immediately be against it.