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To add a point where China is obviously in the wrong: LGBT movies generally don't get screened, or only get smaller, limited screenings.
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1001997/cut-sleeve%2C-cut-scenes-gay-films-have-a-real-hard-time-in-china
It's definitely primarily boomerism, LGBT rights are an area in which the CPC and PRC need quite a bit of improvement.
Several of the films mentioned in that article are upwards of 20 years old.
Crazy cults like Falun Gong and Eastern Lightning.
Google, Facebook and Twitter.
Crazy cults like Falun Gong and Eastern Lightning.
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I wish the West was more proactive in putting the kibosh on nutty lifesucking pyramid schemes. Of course, in the case of places like China, in addition to all the other harm associated with such organizations they are also nice tools for foreign intelligence
Falun Gong has tons of front groups, like Shen Yun and Epoch Times. Falun Gong (or Falun Dafa) is a leftover from feudal superstition, which was unfortunately embraced by the CPC in the 1950s. By the 1990s, it all came crashing down when Falun Gong organized 10,000 people who surrounded the Zhongnanhai leadership compound in Beijing. All they would have had to bring was ladders and clubs, and they could have put an end to the entire leadership of the CPC. It was their own 1/6. This scared the shit out of the Chinese, who went full Maoist on them. Many lessons were learned that day. Falun Gong had organized over the internet, in a way that would come back to haunt the Americans in the 2016 election.
Diablo 2 was technically banned but every internet cafe I went to had it so it certainly wasn't enforced.
Also I know it's a reddit favorite but when I lived in China none of the University students I talked to had even heard of the Tiananmen Square massacre.
most amerisharts haven't heard of the kent state massacre either, so it doesn't surprise me
Yep this sounds to me like one of those 'on the street' comedy segments where they ask randos to find Nebraska on a map and no one can. No one is hiding info about Nebraska from the public, everyone is just dumb.
Probably the same thing in china, they just sleept through history class
literally any kind of vaguely maybe truish no-context factoid about the
Soviet UnionChina: this is evidence that they are a failed state, or that they are up to no good.In particular also because there was never a massacre in the square so its not something you would learn, by comparison a city wide unrest is still a significant historical event but not something everyone is guaranteed to know.
Id wager a lot of Americans wouldnt know about like, the LA Riots or whatever, not to mention actual massacres further back in the US's past.
No one remembers the anti-globalization protests of the 90s and that was like 20 years ago. Tiananmen was what, 30 years ago?
My favorite is Ruby Ridge, people look at me like I'm a conspiracy nut when ever I bring it up.
It's a favorite of the right wing. I'd avoid bringing it up in the future.
The only time I bring it up is when libs try to tell me the problem with government violence is only at the local level and argue for a nationalized police force.
Not only have they not heard of it, but the ones who have unironically think it was based. I remember seeing a poll taken after it happened and most people were in favor of it lmao
It's also really easy if you're in mainland China to set your Steam region to Hong Kong or Taiwan and get censored stuff.
I know steam China has doesn't have access to the full catalog and some games have sections removed. But piracy was super common while I was there so you could still get your hands on anything you wanted and I didn't know a single person who was worried about repercussions. Same deal with movies, things might not release in theaters but if you wanted it it was fairly easy to get.
I talked to a Chinese guy (he was living abroad so maybe biased view) who said they talked about it briefly in school and the teacher could tell you more if you came after class. tbh it is almost like 50 years ago now so I don't know why people expect them to act like it was Chinese 9/11, it doesn't really matter that much to people anymore.
Sure. They see it as the government defending them from dangerous radicals who had no idea what they were going to do once they got control of the country. How were they planning on feeding, clothing, caring for a billion people? Nobody bothered to say.
They also spoke for nobody but themselves. They were university students, not from the people.
"The students are nuts if they think this handful of people can overthrow our Party and our government."
-- Wang Zhen, Chinese Communist official, May 1989
How will we solve it? Freedom and democracy! When will we solve it? After we sell off our public infrastructure to Exxon and GE!
No everything remotely related had been scrubbed from anything publicly accessable.
Bullshit. It's openly taught and discussed as the "June 4th Event". They might censor the Western narrative but that's different.
Reading some of the other comments on this it seems like I may have been misinformed or at least ended up with a fairly warped view of the information available.
if you're just relaying word to mouth why speak? its a propaganda-critical topic
Because I lived there and talked to college students there. All of them told me they had never heard about it. Two of them went looking for information after we talked about it and told me they couldn't find anything at all. So I'm not sure what the reality is but that's where I got my info.
Could just be a phrasing thing, the west calls it the tiananmen square massacre and I think they call it the June 4th protest? Kinda like asking a random American if they remember the Fatherland Liberation War and them not being able to come up with anything after a cursory search because we just call it "the Korean war" here.
If that's the reason I'm gonna feel like such a dumb ass.
It's definitely a bigger part of American curriculum, mainly because on America it's taught as a massacre by a heartless communist government and the tank man hero that stood up to authoritarian socialism.
The actual history is a lot more boring, there's tons of leadup, lots of different players, a slow burn, and a brief explosion of violence that subsides pretty rapidly. It's much more memorable when stripped of context and presented in easily digestible scenes (a poster of tankman is literally on every history teacher's wall).
If you want a good example of negative censorship, look on YouTube for the full uncut video of tankman. It's impossible to find through search and all the results are western talking heads giving commentary on cropped/cut footage.
If you watch the whole thing, you see that the tanks were actually leaving the square when he stopped them and not entering it. It's also kinda crazy how the whole narrative around the event is that they used tanks to run over protestors until they were pulp, but they refuse to run over this guy.
I'm convinced the reason this example is pushed so hard as "resistance to power" in America is that it creates a bunch of people with a death drive. Like fuck no, standing in front of an armored vehicle is dumb as hell! If you want to make a point, flank it and throw something in the hatch. Convincing a bunch of people that standing in front of military hardware is resistance is how you get Kent State. Or the dozens of instances of cops mowing down protestors during the BLM protests.
damn.. do you know anything about their history curriculum?
I took a couple classes (in english) on China's ancient history and that was cool as fuck but I know nothing about how modern history is taught.
There is just so much propaganda out there. We all absorb some of it. It takes a while to deprogram, comrade.
ok that is totalitarian, they need to respect rule of law
For real though? I understand why they'd do it (I just wanted Nike shoe) but lol
fr? guy do you have like an english version of chinas history textbook? there was a post about a dprk history textbook floating. i'd like to see what they learn in high school
There was recent talk about banning My Little Pony and Peppa Pig and I suspect it has more to do with them being owned by Hasbro than by problematic content (Peppa Pig is Br*tish tho).
I was skeptical because I recently saw people recommending Peppa Pig to new chinese learners because it is easy and popular with actualy children in China.
But yes it appears it is partialy true. It wasn't banned it was just a single case of a hashtag being removed from a popular video host site.
Peppa Pig was introduced to Chinese audiences in 2015, when the cartoons were aired on state broadcaster CCTV, and has since become immensely popular. Two Peppa Pig theme parks, in Beijing and Shanghai, are set to open next year.
How nice of you to actualy include the most relevant part of the story deep near the the end of article.
China is banning Peppa Pig.
China is ALSO opening not ONE but TWO Peppa Pig theme parks.
If there was any time in history where journalism was actualy a thing it was probably near 100 years ago. Everything since is 90% garbage clickbait shit like this.
It is just amazing how everything that happens in China gets summarized into some stupid headline "China bans X" or "China is doing Y" etc even when it is some minor or irrelevant event.
Peppa Pig plays on the metro and in train station waiting rooms.
I thought maybe since most Hasbro shows are just commercials for toys that that might be something they'd want broadcast. China's happy to make all those toys tho, so idk.
"we don't ban films, we just ban all of them except for the ones we let through"
Since the 1990s, China has a ‘foreign film quota.’ In the early years, this meant that just a small quote of foreign films were allowed to be imported into China, and in 2012, this was increased to 34 foreign movies per year. The amount of revenue that foreign producers can take from these movies is restricted to 25% (Latham 2007, 185; Ma 2017, 193).
Although Hollywood lobbyists have been negotiating with Chinese film authorities to allow more foreign films to be imported under revenue-sharing terms, there’s been little progress for now – the ongoing looming trade-war has not benefited the situation.
Besides the longstanding cap on foreign films, China also has unofficial ‘Hollywood black-out periods’ in which Hollywood blockbusters are prevented to enter the market so as to boost sales of local productions, a phenomenon dubbed “Domestic Film Protection Month” (国产电影保护月).
That's a good thing, not enough places have a good domestic media apparatus. All the good ones were killed by the CIA and NATO during the cold war.
I know isekai anime/Manga got banned out of some idea they promote suicide. Stuff involving reincarnation/ressurection or ghosts tends to get banned in Chinese media. I'm assuming there have been problems with suicide cults in Chinese history if this is treated as a serious issue. Does anyone know more about this?
Edit: none of what I've said seems to be true.
I dont know where you saw that but Isekai anime is popular af over on China, especially Overlord and Slime.
Upon further review I cannot find any reliable information on this. I only found a bunch of reddit posts with contradictory information, such as some that claim all anime is banned in China.
Overlord is popular in China? Ok that is where they cross the line, support withdrawn.
So what anime, if any, is banned in China? I remember hearing that Code Geass was banned but even that is starting to sound sus.
Feudal China had tons of socially harmful traditional ideas about ghosts and the afterlife. They don't mess around with that crap in China. Out it goes, right along with footbinding and landlords.
I'm not sure about the reincarnation/resurrection ban. I mean, look at 99.99999% of all modern wuxia/xinaxia novels. They all start out having the ultra powerful mc die after getting betrayed, and reincarnate in the past or in another body.
That’s definitely not trie. I have watched loads of donghua centered around reincarnation and cultivation, some of which are immensely popular.
