Someone here said it feels like the sudden spike in China bad shit is an op, I honestly can’t imagine it’s not. That place used to be a fun surf, but holy shit it’s rough atm.

  • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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    This isn't just some happenstance. Reddit is fully manipulated by neoliberal think-thanks that as have been proven with the existence of r/neoliberal, are capable of creating a sudden and strong astroturf movement.

    All the surge of shit takes and anti China propaganda in your previously fun slightly left subreddits are driven by think-thank interns under billionaire money.

        • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          I've depressingly noticed over time that literally every single one of these accusations is in fact projection.

          The depressing bit is that no one else seems to notice.

          • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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            3 years ago

            Unpaid Atlantic council intern calling Chinese poster 50 cent army online while they think about how they're supposed to pay rent this month.

            • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              You point this out and it's "Whataboutism", yet when you say something bad about USA someone will pop up and go "Buh wuh about China dough?" it would be funny if it wasnt profoundly sad.

    • Mike_Penis [any]
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      3 years ago

      um but china owns reddit actually because i said so

    • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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      3 years ago

      It's not new, they had astroturf bot armies out in full force during the 2016 primary to try to boost Hillary.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        They had bot-armies out on day one. The original Reddit model was to simulate a large active community where none existed, in order to encourage real people to engage and participate until the site could hit a critical mass of users.

      • pooh [she/her, any]
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        Also during the 2020 primary the front page would be filled with whatever candidate the MSM was pushing at the time. First was Harris, then rat boy, then Warren, etc. and it would stop or shift to another candidate very suddenly.

        It was especially obvious with rat boy. I’d see numerous messages pop up in different threads along the lines of “I find his intelligence and calm demeanor refreshing.”

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Reddit is fully manipulated by neoliberal think-thanks

      Meh. Its definitely a website that has become shamelessly co-opted by advertisers and marketing agencies. But the exact flavor of politics pulling the strings on the back end isn't as clear cut as that. If the sub was just shamelessly plugging neoliberalism night and day, you wouldn't have /r/conspiracy doing InfoWars shit and the Bitcoin subs infecting every economic discourse.

      Reddit feels far more like generic Disneyfied Consumerism crossed with Techbro Libertarianism. I don't think its a coincidence that subs like /r/conservative and /r/Libertarian and /r/MensRights and /r/4chan are more popular than the /r/neoliberal sub.

  • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    “We don’t have social movements, all we have is media now” to paraphrase Christman. When there is nothing but media, the elites win because they have total control over the narrative. Idk how were supposed to fight this when it’s fucking everywhere you go.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      More places like this that are tied to actual organizing efforts.

      Basically a return to user controlled forums and information sharing, this site is the 2021 equivalent of a zine or paper, only difference is that we don't have an actual movement behind us like Pravda did.

      One place where I kinda agree with the Trots (though they're still stuck in the past for the most part).

    • sokopsisss [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I think we've already been shown how to handle it and probably by the same people doing this op. You'd point out they never talk about the other countries with much worse records in all areas, ask why they are so obsessed with hating on Asian people and just tell them to stop being a bigot.

      Don't even go into some kind of complex geopolitical argument or imply there actually is one, just make the issue about cranky reactionaries bothering normal people with their nonsense.

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yes, which is why we need alternative communication strategies. Join an org and table, canvass, run candidates, etc. Anything that is at least one step removed from corporate platforms.

  • Weedian [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I keep unsubbing from various reddit pages because I see nothing but brainworms and now im down to like only genzedong and pages about dinosaurs

    • FidelCastro [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      dinosaurs are banned in china just like fembois and Winnie the pooh

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      As far as I can tell, SLS and GenZedong are the only places left that are any good on this. All the other tankie subreddits are gone and unfortunately, only places with a strong tankie presence offer pushback on this subject.

    • Octagonprime [any]
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      3 years ago

      The only time you should ever be on Reddit is if you look up a technical question and it's answered there, I deleted my account and stopped using like a year ago and nothing of value was lost

      • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        And even then only on small/specialized/niche subs with good moderation. Everything else, especially large/default/geography-based (e.g. city, nation) subs are fucking trash

    • Vampire [any]
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      3 years ago

      https://hexbear.net/c/dinosaurs STILL doesn't exist?! WTF?!

  • Zodiark [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    To be fair the mods did try to clean one of the threads, but it seemed overwhelmed by reactionaries who insist that China - a country they couldn't give a shit about in 2015 - is the new enemy for this decade/era of decline.

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    honestly the majority of redditors are baby brained and fed non-stop propaganda they never verify or don't even care to read. My days of fighting in the posting war trenches of reddit are long over so it's a bit hard for me to really care all that much. This shit happens to a lot of subs, and you gotta understand just how xenophobia so many redditors are, they talk shit about china and xi like they're on some god given divine crusade and it fufills their idea of activism by saying fuck china n shit like that

  • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Well as a precedent, we know that the gubermint flooded that SOSCuba hashtag on Twitter from within the US a few months ago.

    • ClathrateG [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Heard the ads for 'the SOS Cuba Podcast' on Robert fedans shows?

      Radlib industrial complex

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I was banned from there a couple of hours ago. For being a "Dengist plague" or something lmao.

    Some LeftCom mod is going wild.

      • ButtBidet [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Ya the mods at LSC are libs that couped and booted the original ML mods.

    • Weedian [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      lol theres a dedicated rule to not posting dan price but almost every day a dan price tweet is the top post

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        God damnit. Imagine sucking up to the head of a fucking credit card company. :LIB:s are an absolute joke.

  • aFairlyLargeCat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    :reddit-logo: is pretty good for getting an early forecast on what propaganda is being pushed down the pipe in the next month or two.

    • Homestar440 [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      No shit, someone here predicted Dengist was gonna replace tankie as the new soccdem scare word, and I just saw it in two post headlines….lathe of heaven

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        Dengist was gonna replace tankie

        Neolib heads spinning like fucking helicopter blades. Can't wait to hear "Globalism Bad Aktuly" coming from the crowd that is still spitting out the taste of all the Joe Manchin they swallowed.

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The funniest thing about Deng is how much the neolibs were on board until they realized China wouldn't complete their prophecy of "liberalization". :deng-cowboy:

        • Homestar440 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          spitting out the taste of all the Joe Manchin they swallowed.

          :kombucha-disgust:

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        lol, "stalinist" 2.0

        :deng-smile: go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars