The "Words of Iron" app gives zionists one centralized hub to promote posts that support Israel by increasing their engagement (including by pasting pre-written comments) while directing users to anti-zionist posts to report in an effort to get the post or the poster removed from the internet. It's a zionist brigading app.
Twitch recently indefinitely suspended me (full time streamer for the past 7 years) for "sharing extensive content related to terrorist or violent extremist groups" so while I've been fighting that, I've been digging into the ways that zionists are manipulating social media platforms and algorithms to their benefit (and to our detriment).
their greatest (and laziest) weapon seems to be fucking with people's livelihoods like that.
silencing anyone with a platform. i hope you can win your fight!
wait this made me look up your username and i had no idea you had changed it or that you were anywhere near this based. i was in your discord for a bit lmao
haha no way! You're always welcome to join our server again, my linktree is in my bio.
btw I appreciate the compliment. My community and I have evolved quite a bit over the past several years. Growing politically in public (from centrist edgelord --> anti-imperialist communist) as a woman has also garnered me a TON of harassment from the usual douchey suspects, hence the current Twitch ban I'm fighting.
big discord servers just feel like twitter or something to me, doesn't work too well for me tbh. i hope everything's chill in there though!
yeah idk, maybe i caught you somewhere in the middle of that transition? i watched a few of your streams where you seemed cool but maybe a bit lib or something, forgot about your existence and moved on. last thing i expected was to run into you on hexbear lmao
and yeah, being a woman on the internet has probably improved in my lifetime but it still looks like it sucks. shit, i still see my male friends get harassed in online games for having usernames that could conceivably belong to a woman
oh shit, I watched a couple of your streams way back when. I think you were still in your edgier phase so this is the last place I expected to find you. if you find a new place to stream, make a post about it here - I'm sure others would appreciate it too.
You're so sweet! Tbh I don't know if there's a future for me in streaming. Streaming these days feels so uncomfortable for me since so much of my income at this point comes from the same people whose voices im trying to amplify. Plus the CONSTANT harassment campaigns (usually launched by the same fashy people I used to run with back in my edgier days). Plus McCarthyism (like the ban I'm fighting rn). Plus the nonstop sexism. I'm tired.
This is what we call a "sexist harassment campaign" (this one launched by the likes of Ethan Klein, Pewdiepie, and Moistcritikal to get easy incel clicks because I made a joke) and you're participating in it. Cool that this is even following me here when I'm trying to share my experiences with harassment, cool cool.
Holy shit, thank you mods for removing that!!! Wtf I've never experienced this level of responsiveness on a sexist post, thank you ❤️
I'm not sexist, I don't like twitch streamers just to be clear. I feel slighted that the majority of the content in my post was ignored.
I don't have any context for the video, I didn't know anything about it before I started digging. Again, I don't like twitch streamers, not watching or following their dramas obviously checks out. So put to that to rest please, I'm not a sexist.
But I do find the parasocial relationships and hierarchical nature of twitch streaming toxic and I like this community because neither of those things exist here.
Not having any context and not doing more digging before posting the first link that confirms your bias is not a good excuse. I hope I don't have to explain why. You posted a video that was created by sexist chuds to harass OP. Whether or not you intended for it to be sexist harassment is immaterial, it was and sharing here furthers that harassment.
You seem like an otherwise good-faith comrade, so I am urging you to stop and reflect why policing a fellow community member for being a streamer is
Edit: lmao nvm, I hope you get the
No, I think twitch streaming is a ugly thing and I believe that my opinion is in line with being aa leftist. You're policing me for thinking that Hasan shouldnt be a millionaire leftist lol. Can you atleast engage with the arguments I'm making instead of scolding me?
Oh my bad, I didn't realize you were the sole arbiter of acceptable forms of content as a leftist! Just so we're clear:
chud youtube videos
full-time communist streamers who solicit donos on streamIs that right?
I think thats a massive misrepresentation of what happened. I'm allowed to have my opinion on something that is anti-social and something distantly related to a MLM. I think trying to box me into being the sole arbitor of leftism is an attempt to silence me.
I'm not debating you on why what you did was bad. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and was hoping you'd do some self-reflection, but now you are doubling-down, so yes, I do hope you get silenced
Its when you accuse posters of being alt accounts of other posters, because you cant believe more than one person could disagree with your shitty take.
No because its a new account, no posts and its highly invested with disagreeing with/smear me with no substance.
My take is fine, parasocial relationships are a thing and twitch streamers abusing that dynamic to take money from people is also a thing. It's a reasonable take to believe that twitch streaming is a bad thing because of the profit motive underlying all of it.
Playing games/socializing with your friends is a community thing and using that means to make money is like starting a punk band to sell out. It's gross.
I've been here for 3 years, since the migration from the subreddit. Yes, this is a new account; I created it because my og account was an edgy reference to the 2020 US primary that I felt didn't age as well as the thing it was referencing became more and more dated. I said as much and linked said account when registering this new account, the mods approved the registration of this account, so
I no longer use that account, and certainly not to pull a Unidan or w/e.Yes, I am highly invested because I immediately recognized you posting the same ragebait videos that incels spam at her on the hellsite that is Twitter, and it really fucking stung to see that same thing happen here from a supposed leftist.
I am begging you to do some introspection on why you are the one doing harm here and owe an apology. I don't even necessarily disagree that streaming can absolutely be parasocial and alienating! But, I promise you that the mods aren't deleting your comments out of some defense of the merits of streaming: it's because your comments were personally offensive to a fellow community member, including posting a harmful video that you have yet to apologize for. Ironically, you are exhibiting the very kind of anti-social behavior you are claiming streaming facilitates!
I have apologized for it, and the originally unedited comment was all the content besides the video. Clearly the intent was to discuss twitch streaming. Please move past it.
I'm not doing harm, I'm being instigated to do harm and I'm not falling for it. Twitch streaming and all the power dynamic issues that come with it is wrong.
Yeah, there's a lot of things fucked with alienation under capital. KC hasn't directly plugged anything or tried to monitize Hex, and isn't getting any preferential treatment if that happens.
Until then you're just being weird to one user and doubling down on it when called out. Your problems with parasociality are shit excuse for being antisocial, jacketing people included.
I disagree and feel like big time streamers using their handle and mentioning their content is the same as rolling out a red carpet. Clearly coming fresh to a community doing the latter is tasteless and will be frowned upon by the community. The only reason i know that Kira twitch streams is because they mentioned it in this thread.
I have long held and maintained that i did not approve of twitch, its not personal to the user. I'm surprised that it's held favorably amongst many of you.
Please dont call me weird or other me, please engage with what I'm saying.
holy shit,
until you've cooled off. posting through it is a shit idea.Im heated because what im saying isnt being responded to and im being called weird and now told to logout? Can you sympathize with that? I'll stop posting though, I'm wasting time at work so I'm in an easy spot to fixate. I apologize to anyone if I offended them.
The only reason i know that Kira twitch streams is because they mentioned it in this thread.
Same, I'm very far out of the loop for zoomer e-celebs and twitch/discord is somehow worse cytube/AIM.
Users are allowed to talk about themselves and what they do. We've had a lot of user-created content on hex before, and glancing thru KC"s posts, seems perfectly capable of on-topic posting without plugging anything or giving MLM grift vibes. Usually the focus on opsec here keeps things more abstract, but im seeing a poster first and plugs second.
If that changes i'll ban
Fair but is there any room for the discussion to be no plugs and no handle?
Like hypothetically if hbomberguy makes an account and starts posting here with the same handle that would make me uncomfortable under the same reasoning I've explained before. The dynamics become unequal considering one person is a YTer with 11 millions subs and die hard fans and I'm just regular mokey.
If Hbomberguy makes an account here I'll petition the admins to give control of the account to @Melina@hexbear.net
That applies double for Hasan, except its @regularassbitch@hexbear.net now.
We already both accept community content & ban shill-bots. It's always been a matter of degree & taste, and KC is fine. She doesn't have a multi-million subscriber count to hug the site to death with, isnt pumping anything beyond mentioning her stream's existance when relevent/asked, and posts in a variety of unrelated topics just like every other poster here.
If you wanna talk about parasocialization, alienation, the enshittification of the web, ect, theres lots of ways to have that conversation (especially here!) without centering it on fellow user.
"I'm not sexist I just do sexist things so put that to rest please I'm not sexist"
And now you've been now complaining about me in other unrelated threads? Wtf??? Blocking you.
damn that sucks. i used to watch ur streams and appreciate the work u have done. hope you can find a new platform!
If your interested in IG influencers, look into the “Tel Aviv Institute” which creates content and hints that it sells bots.
As fucked up as this is, how hard would it be to take this concept and make a leftist version of it for us to use to brigade our enemies?
They started it so why shouldn't we?
Zionists got so mad that leftists could post better than them so theyre buying clicks.
This is literally just people who buy clicks. They're just avoiding the bot farm ban hammer because they can use fash failchildren zionists instead of bots.
The actual idea itself is just the result of disgusting techbro startup culture that is the Israeli tech field.
Seriously though, how difficult could this be? What resources would we need?
points to hexbear dot net
Post a link to whatever it is that needs the attention, give some context in your post as to what the issue is that needs to be addressed and then let us piggies do our thing.
and then let us piggies do our thing
you fuckers don't do shit just whine in the comments in the_dunk_tank and don't touch the actual stuff that's posted. Not that I do anything either, so I'm one to talk, but still
let's be honest - we're all tired of getting into the mud only to get shouted down. it's only fun when they come to us here.
Shit like this doesn't work. It's incredibly easy to sus out, which is why most zoomers reflexively reject Israeli claims. If anything it just makes your position seem even weaker.
There was an app like this for the Bernie 2016 campaign if I remember correctly - you’d get push notifications with content to post on Twitter and FB
I edit in Wikipedia. The pro Israeli brigading is fucking painful. You can't get in one discussion without 7 other random editors jumping in to chime in to say that Al Jazeera is a biased news source or that a Twitter post disproved that point.
I was gonna post if the Nazis had internet this is the type of shit they would name their websites, although words of iron might be 60 letters long in German for all I know.
Wonder if its possible to sign up for this app and somehow work against it from their side
It seems they just give you a pre-written response to say to a specific post they pick.
I have no idea why they're boasting so much. You just bought an Azure Cloud service.
This is the Jeremy Reiner app but for Zionism. You have a parasocial relationship with the creator, but you’re only allowed to react positively to it
They need to add lootboxes and battlepasses if they want to convince me to join. Insult 5 Arab children and you unlock dark mode
Help prevent the spread of false or anti-Israeli content by reporting it.
bit on the nose imo
Yeah, been saying for years that this is what the left should be doing.
I fully agree with you, but we'd be banned off the platform in a matter is days. Brigading is only OK when it serves the current power structure.
Which is why you do everything you can to make it look like an organic build up. Something that's easier to do when you have an organized platform like this vs just dropping random links in the dunktank without even anonymizing referrals.
Ya true. Like they made BDS illegal, I'm sure they'd make social media campaigns illegal. I feel bad as the poster above has a good idea, I just don't trust our social system to be fair.
Same, we need to employ propaganda more effectively. I don't like things like this, but the mainstream narrative is always against us and we should take any opportunity to offset that even slightly.
the mainstream narrative is always against us and we should take any opportunity to offset that even slightly.
This is one of the ways how the mainstream narrative is built. Organize means much more than Unions, it means using the tools we have available to us to build a united front in advancing our goals. One of which should most definitely be fighting their propaganda and the consent manufacturing that makes it easier for them to commit social murder on us. Oh, and in this case, literal Genocide.
They already reflexively dismiss anything leftist as "putlerbots" or whatever, why would you do the thing that they accuse you of doing to dismiss you. This is such a dumb idea. The existence of this app has probably done more to harm Israel's credibility than the millions of half-assed pro Israel comments would've done to boost it.
Every special interest group that has any sort of real money backing them has some sort of variation on this concept. Heck, volunteering with political candidates will have you doing a variation on the concept, but heaven forbid we organize to actual bring the truth to people.
And
if you think the average person online but us gives a shit or thinks about this for more than a minute. This has been going on for decades now. I'm sure this is what's destroying Israel's reputation. Definitely not the genocide.They've been doing a genocide since 1948. Anyone with a brain can see the IDF tiktok thirst traps are propaganda. Israel being so blatantly bad at propaganda in the modern era makes a big difference imo. For zoomers being anti-Israel isn't some niche leftist thing anymore, it's been the default for quite a while, since way before oct 7.
You're not going to accomplish anything by playing by the "rules" that are set up by the already winning team.
Fun fact: I have the home address and phone number of a prominent Zionist politican/"enterpreneour" named Dr. Eli David.
If you're ever driving around and see a way-too-big house, take note of the address. You can use the single free lookup from property-shark to see who owns it and cross-reference the name to linkedin and other spots.
I once found the Saudi education minister's home when looking at giant mansions in the DC area from google maps.
Tried this on the biggest house in the neighborhood and found the home of the guy that owns a giant warehouse sales chain with his name attached.
Advice to prople who try it: mailinator.com is good for short-term disposable email addresses useful for one-time sign-ins like this, and property shark only verifies with email, so you can fake all of the other required fields
Words of Iron? How about Hearts of Iron now excuse me while I go get all my divisions fucking encircled because fucking Romania is buffed to shit for some shitty-ass reason fuck the forum users fucking nazis
Brigading is a made up redditor concept used by people who are mad that people from outside their echo chamber show up. Whatever this is shouldn't be conflated with that.
I think it's the opposite, this is actual brigading and what redditors use the word for shouldn't be confused with this
This site sort of does that with the dunk tank. I know I've gone into Reddit threads posted here to start shit lol
I wonder if you could just use Words of Iron to counteract it. Report their posts and boost the posts they dislike. If anything it gives the game away because they’re demonstrating which posts get under their skin.
