• Nakoichi [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Working conditions includes workers striking over lack of covid protection measures.

    Honestly really disappointed in Wolff for this.

    • volkvulture [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      yes, which falls mainly on owners & employers and not average mischaracterized Americans

      Wolff is right here

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            We wouldn't if the US wasn't full of anti-vaxx brainworms.

            Don't tell me about what is or isn't about science while doing some underhanded anti-vaxx apologia.

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                You're just distracting from the original point. People aren't striking because mandates. You're undermining the labor movement and deflecting from the real cause that is workplace safety and wages.

                • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  "Distracting?"

                  People are striking because of conditions, which include bad governance & bad corporate policy... largely around how inconsistent the handling of the pandemic has been

                  why are you separating out ultrapartisan reductionism here? both parties did horribly & New York City still has the worst death rates since the pandemic started

                  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    I fucking work retail this is not partisan this is about safety.

              • cilantrofellow [any]
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                3 years ago

                70% is only valid as a herd immunity target for diseases that do not reinfect and do not demonstrate an evolutionary rate capable of vaccine escape.

                I appreciate the nuance Wolff thinks he’s applying but it’s neither the time nor place.

                Edited as my 70% was vague.

                • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Yes it's both the time and the place

                  ~70% is for 12+, for adults it's actually quite a bit higher

                  For the most vulnerable populations the vaccine rate is 85%+

                  • BeanBoy [she/her]
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                    3 years ago

                    70% rate for the country doesn’t mean everywhere in the country reached 70% which is why we’re getting variants that can break through vaccines

            • volkvulture [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Many people are protesting & striking & resigning against mandates

              Better covid protections & higher wages are part and parcel to the larger struggle against being pitted against customers by owners/managers

              • effervescent [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                Many people are protesting & striking & resigning against mandates

                There have been dozens of stories about this and they’ve all been debunked as right-wing grift. There’s a lot of money in this narrative right now and you’re literally parroting what amounts to science denial propaganda

                • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/masonbissada/2021/11/01/2300-fdny-firefighters-call-in-sick-in-apparent-protest-of-vaccine-mandate/?sh=129a0f336b2f

                  so you're saying 2,000 NY firefighters just called in for some other reason?

                  • effervescent [they/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    I’m saying that the commissioner has every incentive to call what they’re doing a “strike” and is literally the only source saying so. If you put a bunch of workers on unpaid leave, a lot of them are going to burn their sick time. That’s not a strike. But a strike would be illegal and would let them recall the workers, which is the whole point.

                • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/masonbissada/2021/11/01/2300-fdny-firefighters-call-in-sick-in-apparent-protest-of-vaccine-mandate/?sh=129a0f336b2f

                  firefighters

      • silent_water [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        yes, which falls mainly on owners & employers and not average mischaracterized Americans

        yes

        Wolff is right here

        no