https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1238161.shtml
I hope that, given China’s insanely quick economic development, they will also be much quicker to catch up in terms of social issues like this.
LGBT rights progress??? B b b b but Foxnews and CNN said China was sending all the gays to gaylags???????
China is still terrible about gay men. Let's not belittle that struggle because of a circle jerk.
I... thought you might be joking, so I checked. "Havana syndrome is real" sure is one hell of a take to have on this website.
Yeah, China has improved over the years with respect to LGBT rights, but there's still a long way to go unfortunately.
My understanding (based on this) of the status of gender recognition is that it's possible to change gender on official documents, but the requirements (surgery, plus procedural requirements) are onerous and some documents (academic diplomas) can't be changed, which is really shitty. Solidarity with trans comrades in China.
Thanks for your posts on this, by the way. I remember you from another thread and your posts have been pretty helpful to my understanding of LGBT issues in China.
What does that have to do with what they said? Just searching their post history for something to distract with a dunk? The most reddit thing I've ever seen lmao
I think he remembers it because it was on a post of his, not because he searched the post history. But yeah, it isn't particularly related.
It is related. There have been plenty of posts in here saying that poor translation of words was the main reason for the western media saying "China is banning effeminate men" which is also not same as "banning gay men". I can still link it if you want. https://twitter.com/moghilemear13/status/1433563383731736577 https://twitter.com/mango_press_/status/1433821330315653125 Also, they haven't banned any gay actors or singers from TV. I am sure it is a big disappointment to western libs.
He doesn't believe this and is pushing the fake "China banned gay men" which is surprisingly heavily upvoted and yet he thinks Havana Syndrome is real. I am just pointing out the irony
Yes, China definitely has some problems with their treatment of gay men, mostly (as I understand) related to media censorship and gay marriage not yet being legal - it's bad, and should be condemned.
It seems clear that things are improving overall, though, and have been for a time. It's also ridiculous for the USA to use it as propaganda considering... everything. Hopefully LGBT rights in China improve further.
In a case shared by the hospital, an adolescent girl named Xiao Lin (pseudonym) suffered repeated anxiety and depression after she entered puberty and her female physiological characteristics became more obvious.
Through searching on the internet, she learned that she is a transgender person.
However, talking to her parents about this increased her psychological pressure since her parents tried to dismiss the concept as being in her mind but their efforts eventually turned out to be in vain.
Cringe journalistic malpractice
It's not hard to care but some people never realize it's an option
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This may also be a language issue, or a knowledge issue (writer might not understand correctly how to refer to people). Mandarin, AFAIK, doesn't really have gendered pronouns in the same way as English.
They should probably establish editorial policies for articles like this one to avoid this exact issue.
My understanding is that ta is gendered in written language (which was apparently introduced in the 20th century, before which it was gender neutral, thank you Europeans for exporting that one), but spoken there's no difference.
Yeah, it's not an imposition of the west or anything. It seems to have been borrowed from western tradition, though, at least based on this article I found.
https://cross-currents.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/e-journal/articles/reading/zhao.pdf
As said by others, bit of an annoyance that they completely misgendered the specific trans boy/kid in the article (which might be a translation issue dunno) but yeah, always good to have a specific clinic for trans stuff set up. Good reminder that we're not going away.
The local Shanghai Party continuing to kick goals I see. The spirit of the 1967 Commune still runs strong.
Worth noting also that they didn't used to be - the gendered variations were an early 20th century creation.
Oh yeah, it has nothing to do with this article. I just think it's really interesting that it's a relatively recent development. I think the issue with the article is probably just the author not understanding the correct way to refer to people in this context.
Due to increasing linguistic and cultural interactions with the West, a shift took place at the turn of the 20th century. Gradually, Chinese speakers started using 他 to refer to only to men, since the character contains the radical 人 (meaning ‘human’ or ‘man’). In Chinese, a radical is a basic graphical component of a Chinese character that imparts linguistic meaning – not unlike a category or classification in English.
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why the fuck would you actively introduce gender into your language? westoids ruin the day yet again
i don't see what is fash about that? is it too similar to n***oid? by westoids i meant the europeans who colonized china
-oids has been going around the last couple of months as a suffix reactionaries are appending to things to dehumanize them. it goes back way further but it's picked up steam recently. like dehumanizing the west is fine but we should really find our own ways of doing these things instead of endlessly copying the latest fash vocal tick.
it's unfortunate that they have such power over discourse, it's hard to keep track of what originates where. i'll stick to "mayos" from now on then
Yeah, but they started doing that under colonialism. Not really their fault.
Yeah, but it's not really imposed by colonizers. It was (as far as I can tell) indigenous and inspired by/following the model of English.
Regardless, it is the way it is now, which, as comrat points out, is what's relevant for this article.
Good to know, now I can scare conservatives by telling them everyone in China is nonbinary
Everyone to the right of AOC will see this as further proof of China bad. Just one more reason we see this as :amerikkka:
Can't wait to see Zenz claiming that China is abolishing gender
Oh shit. Will we get a scare about how China is "mutilating" the genitals of children now? ...please no. :desolate:
Jin Xing looks like she's raising up the trans community in China like a necromancer.
I remember reading this before: https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1008624/at-this-niche-clinic%2C-no-stares%2C-smirks%2C-or-stigma Probably not actually the first, this article just feels like it was just written to fill space.
This is the first for children. The one in the article you linked to is for adults.
