https://www.businessinsider.com/labor-shortage-dicks-drive-in-pays-19-hour-plus-benefits-2021-11

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah, because fast food is hard work regardless of how much you get paid and not everyone is willing to deal with grease burns and demanding customers

    Hell, I love cooking and fast food would probably rob me of that within a month

  • SoyfaceKillah [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    nah dick's is great and is a local institution. they've offered really competitive tuition support for years and they don't deign to the customer at all: if you take too long to order, they tell you to fuck yourself; if you try to order anything customized, they tell you to fuck yourself; i think they finally got card readers, but for years if you tried to pay in anything but cash, they told you to fuck yourself.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      if you take too long to order, they tell you to fuck yourself; if you try to order anything customized, they tell you to fuck yourself

      That's uhh... not good.

          • SoyfaceKillah [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            b-b-b-but what about people w/ allergies? don't they get their treats?

            amazing that you morons will construe literally everything in the least charitable light possible, every time. fwiw, iirc, there are like four sandwich options, so if one were allergic to, say, their relish sauce, or cheese, or onions, that would not prevent one from eating there.

            • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Or, crazy idea, just let them get the sandwich minus the relish. Literally just not adding an ingredient.

        • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It's pretty bad for disabled people. I don't want a certain ingredient because the texture is just horrible to me? Fuck me? I take too long to decide because I have trouble making decisions in general? Fuck me?

          • ShareThatBread [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            I take too long to decide because I have trouble making decisions in general? Fuck me?

            Handy tip. Don’t stand in the line. Look at menu till you’ve made your decision. Join line.

            • WhatAnOddUsername [any]
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              3 years ago

              I can't speak for OP and I usually try to do this, but this is not always practical when the restaurant is designed such that the only way to be able to read the text on the menu is to be close to the front of the line.

            • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              I was thinking about sit down restaurants. Of course if there's a line I'm not gonna hold it up. But like the other reply said there needs to be a way to read the menu without being in line in the first place.

            • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              It's not a "boomer mindset" to want accommodations for a fucking disability. And it's not "picky", I've literally thrown up from certain textures. Or not in my case but even more common: people are allergic to certain ingredients.

              don’t hold up the line

              I was thinking a sit down restaurant. If there's a line ofc you just let someone in front of you and take your turn when you are ready. But the restaurant would need to have printed menus easily available instead of just the big overhead displays that I can barely read unless I'm already at the front of the line.

                • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  "to accommodate my pickiness which is totally serious and not just food preference because I said so it’s very different than food preferences that literally everyone everywhere has I’m different"

                  Holy shit this is ableist as fuck. Just shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.

                  it’s totally something that they should be forced to work around just for me not for normal people with food preferences but definitely for me because I’m different it’s not pickiness

                  No, it's something that should be (and is) standard fare for food service, for anyone. It's takes literal seconds to complete most requests. Hell sometimes you do less work because it's just leaving something off.

                  And I’m also certain that this place isn’t going to say “FUCK YOU” for ordering a burger without lettuce because you’re allergic to lettuce or whatever

                  That's not what this says: "if you try to order anything customized, they tell you to fuck yourself"

                  Then read the fucking menu instead of wasting your server’s time.

                  I'm not wasting my server's time, I'm apparently being told to fuck myself for asking that they come back later because I'm not ready yet.

                    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      that lets you order your tendies without sauce

                      Yeah, let's add in some well know shitty ableist memes, I'm sure that will help your case.

                      expect to be treated like royalty.

                      Some minor change isn't "expecting to be treated like royalty". Nobody is asking that their food be served on a silver platter at a specific temperature plated just the right way or some shit like that.

                      I don’t think that was meant with 100% coverage of all conditions, obviously.

                      No, I don't see where that's obvious. "Anything customized" means... anything customized.

                      That’s not really part of “if you take too long to order” now, is it?

                      It is.

                      if you cut into their pay

                      Servers are ideally paid hourly, it shouldn't matter whether they serve 1 customer or 5. A restaurant isn't good for maximizing the number of tips its servers get, it would be good for paying their servers and actual fucking wage.

                              • activated [he/him]
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                                3 years ago

                                Oops, deleted this when I cleared out of this thread because the vibes are definitely bad

                                My lowest price to performance so far is Mellow Corn. Used to be like $8/bottle but now it’s like $16 because everything is expensive but it’s still very good.

                                Japanese bourbon drinkers are geniuses by normalizing whiskey+soda highballs as a great alternative to beer that doesn’t make you feel too full imo, they also bailed out the US’s bourbon industry when we were too busy overpaying for vodka drinks and fortified wine for decades.

            • WhatAnOddUsername [any]
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              3 years ago

              It is not "boomer mindset" to want to be treated with some basic level of courtesy, at least as far as being told to go fuck yourself for requesting a small concession.

                • WhatAnOddUsername [any]
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                  3 years ago

                  Is that the case with Dick's restaurant? There was another comment where someone was confusing Dick's restaurant with Dick's Last Resort.

        • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I'm not saying you have to keep a bunch of extra ingredients on hand. If someone wants an ingredient you don't have oh well. But that's not what this is about, "anything customized" includes removing ingredients.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        It’s a specific part of the appeal of that place, one of their gimmicks is that the staff treat you like shit and fucks with you. It’s very fun when boomers don’t understand that and get mad.

        • WhatAnOddUsername [any]
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          3 years ago

          Is that Dick's restaurants, or Dick's Last Resort in Las Vegas, which doesn't appear to be affiliated with the restaurants? Or do the restaurants do that too just by coincidence?

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Oh I see yes I thought they were the same thing, there’s also a Dick’s Last Resort in Orlando(?) and I assumed with how people were describing it they were the same thing, my bad.

            • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              IIRC I've seen one in a few other touristy places, like Gatlinburg, Tennessee.

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Owner is still a little porky who opposes new taxes to deal with homelessness and so on.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    $20 is still scraps, iirc we should be near what like $30 an hour or something to match inflation? I hope workers keep holding out.

    • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      It's Seattle, so yeah 2500 take-home per month after taxes is just barely covering rent. Maybe not even covering rent if you need anything more than a shitty studio

    • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      $19/hour won't let you buy a house and it won't let you send your child to college without crushing debt. It would be difficult to even just raise a child on $19/hr. It's shameful that this is even a headline of an ostentatious amount of money for a worker to be making -- pretty sure they would still be in poverty especially after taxes.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          If I remember right adjusted for inflation from the highest point it should be around $20, if adjusted for productivity like it actually should be it would be around $27-28.

      • SoyfaceKillah [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        this is true, but 38000 is much better than much of unskilled work receives in this country; and, w/ the addition of the tuition reimbursement, it's a great job for kids at the U.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    gosh maybe Dick's should try $21 instead of whining

  • D61 [any]
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    3 years ago

    Its probably rough finding people to do constant night and weekend work. And I'd expect that at the very least, the kitchen staff would be working well after the store closes to clean the kitchen area (or there's a graveyard shift that does that, which is probably even harder to find people who'd want to work those hours for a long period of time.)

      • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        nah the 3*8 is actually quite terrible, either hazard pay or shifting the pattern one week a month (back to back) to night

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Agreed, the only really good thing about the Soviet planning was that everyone was on the set schedules and there wasn't any of the just in time scheduling that we have now. Made it a lot easier for workers to plan ahead instead of being thrust into a schedule 2 days before it starts at best.

          • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            yeah fixed planning is much better, agreed, and soviet conditions were better generally for workers so factoy shifts were probably not as much a pain

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              That schedule seems rough, but like even today in America, 12 hour night shifts aren't uncommon. Most of the factory work out here is on a 12 hour shift with 3 shifts/week starting so you aren't full time until you pick up a 4th and are working 48 hour weeks and still need to pick up another to get enough overtime to make the $15-17/hr wage worth it.

              • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                yeah shit's rough in the us, i have experience in europe, plenty of family working in factories (did a bit but was not in a 24/24 one) and the moving shifts every week is a killer, they still prefered night shifts only over the moving schedule, but we're talking about 40h a week annualized to something like 35h a week, not as rough at all, worst part? salary's the same (if not lower) but it's livable here (well apart from big city centers but they don't have factories anyways)

      • D61 [any]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, a great idea that takes a fundamental change in how management thinks about things though.

        When I worked a "normal" job I spent a decade getting my peers comfortable with some cross training to make it easier to do short rotations through other sections only to have management constantly undermine this effort by deciding " labor costs were too high " "LaBoR CoStS wErE tOo HiGh!?!?!?" and reducing the number of people in the department on all shifts.

        Then it just turned back into, keep your head down, avoid eye contact, admit to knowing nothing outside of the bare minimum. And I don't blame those co-workers one bit.

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Guarantee that offer is extremely conditional and this story was pitched to BI

    • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      From their website

      Dick’s employees earn a base wage that varies from $19/hr to $20/hr (only at the Broadway & Queen Anne locations)

    • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      The pod :the-podcast: had an episode about this (can’t remember which one) where they did a little digging and found that these “benefits” are so means tested that no one really qualifies for them. It’s just PR that local media uncritically repeats.