The prosecutor just asked him if he was inspired by “first person shooter videogames” where “the objective is to kill as many people as possible”
He’s 100% getting away with it.
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EDIT: his testimony continues, new link here: https://youtu.be/YfrUopNUSIk
EDIT 2: The judge just denied the admission of a key prosecution video exhibit because "pinching and zooming on an ipad inserts extra pixels" and he won't allow the exhibit unless the prosecution can find an expert witness to testify that it won't corrupt the image. He's given him 20 minutes to find such a witness
I've been seeing a lot of posts on the left side of social media and even here that border on defending Rittenhouses actions, stating that he was only acting in self defense or further diluting his actions or allowing him the benefit of the doubt.
Can we just unequivocally say, right now, that Kyle Rittenhouse is a fascist white supremacist and his actions on that day last summer were indefensible because he intended and still intends to uphold capitalism-imperialism through the violent oppression of ethnic minorities? Does anyone actually disagree with this? Let's just get on the same page here.
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this kid is the spectacle; he's the process of going from burning down police stations to arguing about statues. if a judge sentenced him to 99 years of gulag and socialist reeducation, would that be a victory?
don't mix up the signifier and the signified
He is absolutely indefensible and all who do can share the wall with him as far as I'm concerned.
Like I'd make the ditch diggers and train guys have to work anywhere near these weirdos.
I’ve been seeing a lot of posts on the left side of social media
Soc dems are horrible for a reason.
I agree with everything you’re saying, but who on the left has defended Rittenhouse? Even most normie libs I know think he’s a wannabe Klansman who should rot.
I’ve seen explanations of why he’s likely to get off and why what he did is considered self defense under US law, but I don’t think I’ve seen anyone actually defending his actions.
People on this site. Probably the same people who find any reason to defend Glenn
Haven't seen anyone here doing that but maybe a banned wrecker or two
I’ve been seeing a lot of posts on the left side of social media and even here that border on defending Rittenhouses actions, stating that he was only acting in self defense or further diluting his actions or allowing him the benefit of the doubt.
crossing state lines to attend a protest seems premeditated as fuck.
This is another argument that people are making, that you can't for some reason accept the premise that a group of people are bad because they "disagree with you". Yes... That is certainly what we ought to do. When the other group of people are those that believe that black and brown and poor working people should be ground into a paste, it is our moral imperitive to oppose them. It's one of the most liberal ideology-poisoned arguments of all. Drives me insane!
Who cares about martyrdom?
This guy should be in jail. The right wants a martyr? Good, let them have it. The left has hundreds of them and still doesn't control america.
Are you talking about Destiny? Because that's the only "left"(he's not) person I've seen defending this kid.
Holy shit, the judge just WENT OFF on the prosecutor for trying to bring up the fact that Rittenhouse previously expressed his wishes to murder people for shoplifting.
The judge is obviously doing everything he can to ensure KR gets off, but at the same time wow this prosecutor seems like a born loser. Who also seems to be grandstanding to maybe kickstart his own political career?
What a disaster.
Rittenhouse previously expressed his wishes to murder people for shoplifting.
these people are fucked in the head lmao
like what
someone give me a Zizek tier analysis on this
I agree with you. The lawsuits the victims and their families filed would be disaster for that locality if a judged ruled in their favor. The prosecutor could be thinking his salary to or position would get cut in retaliation if they city of Kenosha has to pay millions.
I've said it numerous times, but I wish the one guy had just shot him.
Man that would have saved us all a lot of trouble. But also might have made him a martyr? Who fucking knows. It certainly would've been my preferred outcome. Now we get a long drawn out trial, where the narrative that the rioters (NOT “victims”) got what they deserved is going to get blasted all over the media for weeks by his defense, and by the court itself when he’s eventually acquitted.
I don’t really give a shit about giving them a martyr. They’ll do the same shit regardless. They want a martyr? Okay, kill him and give them one then. At least then the fucking fascist psycho won’t go free to kill more innocent people.
This trial is doing a fucking extremely frustrating job of painting people who will take up arms to protect someone else's property in another city/state as normal rational people and the people who would take to the streets and burn some cars after yet another Black person is shot by the police as extremist loons.
I'd say that is a perspective held by 85%+ of US citizens across class and all other boundaries unfortunately...
Yeah the justifiable murder fantasy is pretty well baked into the American identity for obvious historical reasons. It's just frustrating that even I'm watching these witnesses who were with Rittenhouse and I'm having a hard time seeing the standard American juror seeing them as unreasonable. Except for the photography guy who was clearly weird and biased. But everyone knows someone like this, who would leap at the perceived chance to kill a looter, etc. and when they aren't under oath/on national TV, they sound as unhinged as the actual prospect of killing someone in cold blood actually is.
this shithead is going to run for congress the first election after he turns 25
The stage for all future elections is going to be some neoliberal ghoul who's job is to explain to you how owning nothing is good and a straight up neo-nazi.
This prosecutor will probably run for office too.
The ineffective neoliberal and the murderous fascist. Can anyone name a more iconic pairing?
small consolation but Rittenhouse won't be 35 until ~2039 and Hogg won't be 35 until... ~2035
I said Chauvin was gonna get it when most people thought he was gonna walk.
I definitely think Rittenhouse is gonna walk, or at least only be found guilty of the firearm possession charge.
The lolcat has spoken and is probably right :sadness-abysmal:
Conservative gun owners love fantasizing about killing someone in self defense, to the point that they don't see a problem with (and I've talked to multiple people who have explicitly said they wanted to do this) intentionally looking for trouble, like going to a riot or a super high crime neighborhood with a gun and try to get jumped so they can """justifiably""" kill someone.
There was a case some years back of someone leaving I believe a purse in a garage to bait someone into stealing so they could murder them on their property.
edit: link https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-montana-shooting-20141217-story.html
A local lawn-care worker testified at trial that when he arrived one day to spray the lawn for insects, Kaarma, naked, burst out of the house and pointed a shotgun at him
What the fuck. What a bloodthirsty freak.
i feel like there has never been a country that produces the absolute fucking batshit crazy psychos that America does
Because he represents the murders they themselves wish they could be so lucky to commit and get away with
They're really arguing about what a fucking pinch to zoom feature on a phone does and whether zooming in on an image alters the pixels lmao.
Judge seriously is refusing to allow the evidence without the prosecution proving that a zoomed image isn't altered and is refusing to adjourn to allow them the time to get an expert in to testify to that.
Sure seems like these are cop-friendly prosecutors (but I repeat myself) actively trying to sabotage their case.
Judges are a curse upon this world, and really ought to be treated as enemies as much as if not moreso than landlords and possibly a few other government jobs. They are the keystone of oppression
Criminal trials should be in front of three judges like the ones that Congress created for the federal court system .
Three judge decisions are universally fairer. They are much more expensive to run; however, if the state is going to deprive someone of their life, liberty, or property than the extra cost is justified.
An aside: Outside of a few states running some reform justice programs that force civil law diversions most of the the United States' justice system is common law - where judges can overrule democracy so long as judges above them agree. What fucking use is a constitution if at the end of the day its meaning is divined by only 9 unelected judges serving for life?
I don't know much of anything about law, so when you put it out in an understandable way like that it somehow makes me hate this country even more. like holy shit
In the likely event that he gets off scott-free, what dialectic effect does this have on future left-right street violence? Does a group get emboldened? Do things cool down for fear of death on one or both sides?
If people that kill protesters are going to go unpunished there is absolutely no reason that the people at a protest shouldn't shoot them dead and tear them limb from limb.
those pedestrians beating the driver who tried to run them over to death comes to mind
I need a link Edit: Are you talking about that truck driver Reginald Denny from the LA riots that white people cry about a lot?
i mean honestly you're probably going to jail for a long ass time for being there anyway lmao
I suspect we will see left wing protests after he goes free. Possibly large scale civil unrest, but the facts of the case make that a little less likely.
It sucks to say it, but the fact that he only killed white people also makes large scale protests unlikely. White Americans are usually too civil to engage in large scale protests over this kind of thing, which is why obscene killings like the killing of Daniel Shaver didn’t result in much of anything.
because there’s always a scuffle in Portland.
Ngl I fully believe that when the US collapse/Balkanization really kicks off it’s gonna be something in Portland that’s considered the real starting event
They have both lefties and chuds there. Brooklyn and Oakland have lefties but no chuds. Doesn't a lot of the it could happen here podcast take place there?
Robert Evans moved to Portland because he thought it was the most likely place for a new civil war to kick off.
If there's going to be protests I imagine they will be pretty small. Sadly the case really didn't get the coverage like George Floyd did.
Ehh, you can't really blame POC for not going to bat for the people who enslaved, raped, and continue to terrorize them.
Prosecutor needs to be disbarred. Absolutely throwing this case hard.
He cried like a toddler when they are caught doing something wrong.
I hope there are enough parents on the jury to detect his puerile playacting.
