• Owl [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Every time I see a news article about an opinion poll on an objective fact, and the article does not contain the actual fact itself, I feel like I've slipped even further into a society of the mad.

    (For reference, US crime increased in 2001, 2005, 2006, 2015, and 2016, and decreased in the rest of the years shown.)

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Also we shouldn't freak out about year to year increases when they occur because crime is already near all time lows.

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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        3 years ago

        Hard to say about all-time because of the reporting rate, but definitely 40- or even 50-year lows.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I think sexual assault is up in recent decades, but I imagine that's more to do with victims coming forward more often now.

    • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That was my first thought too, like this is completely meaningless without also seeing what the Crime stats are (and maybe if they're different in red and blue counties). Like it would be so easy to overlay that data.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    lol look how it tracks presidential administrations and inverts when the WH changes parties

    • cawsby [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Changing perceptions about crime rates are normal in two(ish) party systems.

      What is not normal is a 27 point gap. Larger gaps lead to more social and political instability.

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      Look at the red line, the blue line, and the gray line each on their own. One of them is far more erratic.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Looks like when a Dem is president the Republicans are freaking out about crime, and when a Rep is president the Democrats are freaking out about crime, and the effect is just more heightened than usual after this most recent election.

    Notably, both sides of the aisle don't seem to be affected by whether or not the crime rate actually rose the year before or not. It's 100% feelings.

  • effervescent [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    No wonder they love Trump. He personally cut the crime rate of Meade, South Dakota in half

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    it was divorced from reality to begin with, if you just overlay R and D presidents on top.

    but now it's just like :xi-plz: levels

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Not to do an acshually here, but the trend seems to indicate that Democrat perception of crime is no longer associated with the president party, it seems stagnant through the 2nd term of the Obama presidency and the Trump presidency. Probably because Democrats have rightly accepted that crime rates are relatively low right now.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I would love to see this tracked with real cri.e rates in blue and red districts

  • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Hogs think it's illegal to be black, and you know damn well once we get artificial wombs, they'll make it illegal to be a woman.

  • BezosDied [any]
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    3 years ago

    The conclusion you’re drawing is wrong.

    These Republicans are actually connected to reality in their correct understanding that crime is surging in the US. On the other hand, the do-nothing Democrat party has no way of processing the fact that Biden hasn’t even managed to slow—let alone stop—the material decline of the US, with all its associated human consequences.

    Republican explanations of this phenomenon are fundamentally idiotic and idealist (“It’s because Biden secretly supports China’s War on Christmas”), and they mostly care to fixate on crime because they’re the opposition party now.

    Still, this isn’t the absolute L for them that you’re suggesting.

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Maybe they are comitting a lot of crimes away from the prying eyes of local democrats, and so they actually know that the crime rate is higher than those democrats perceive.