Also, I see you there, abstaining countries, you cowards

  • Teekeeus
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    27 days ago

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    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah but that's not on the same level as Germany abstaining. :honecker-interesting:

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Denmark during WWII: Oh, so you want to occupy us? Aww man... we sent those refugees back to you and everything! I bet we should surrender. Here, buy some pork and recruit some Waffen-SS volunteers!

      Denmark after WWII: What do you mean put the politicians and judges and cops and businessmen who collaborated with the nazis to justice? That's impossible. Let's starve refugees and cut the hair off young women who had sex with Germans and bully their children instead!

      • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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        3 years ago

        What do you mean put the politicians and judges and cops and businessmen who collaborated with the nazis to justice?

        DuPont, Ford, General Motors, and ITT:

        :side-eye-1:

  • Vncredleader
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    3 years ago

    How the fuck do Finland and Austria get the right to vote on this let alone abstain? That should be instant cause for them getting kicked

    edit: oh fuck germany as well? I mean not unexpected, but you'd think they would as a rule be obligated to. looking at it, is a single Axis power voting yes? Abstaining are: Austria, Germany, Italy, Finland, Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania, Japan, and France. Also Spain and i guess technically San Marino and Andorra. In terms of nations with major contributions to the Axis powers or with large enough collaboration movements that voted abstain: Poland, Estonia, Hungary, Greece, Switzerland, Slovakia, and Ukraine

    That's not getting into nations occupied by the Nazis like both former Czechoslovakian nations, Lithuania, and fucking Albania. Hoxha please wake up, we need you. Really just the whole of occupied nations, major collaborators, and literal Axis members all seem to have abstained or voted against. Even most of Yugoslavia voted abstain, same with former soviets Georgia and Moldova. Save for Serbia and Bosnia in the former case.

    Plus Ireland which danced around support like crazy even if it did aid in a significant manner with airfields and giving weather station info

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    So found the meeting coverage from the UN website: Here

    The Committee next took up the draft resolution titled “Combating glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance” (document A/C.3/76/L.57/Rev.1).

    The representative of the Russian Federation, presenting the draft, said the victory against Nazism was decisive for the entire modern system of human rights. Noting that the international human rights instruments adopted were a response by the United Nations to the crimes of Nazism, he said the text addresses distinct human rights issues that have been exacerbated over the last year, and that the draft will bolster efforts to end racism and racial discrimination.

    The representative of Armenia recalled the tens of millions of dead on the front line under falling bombs, occupation and concentration camps, noting that the victory during the Second World War was achieved thanks to joint efforts by the anti-Hitlerian coalition. The safeguarding of truth and memory is a sacred duty and meaningful tool to counter the resurgence of Nazism, he stressed, objecting to attempts to bury the lessons of this horrific war.

    The representative of the United States, condemning the glorification of Nazism, recalled that his country fought for the freedom, dignity and human rights of all individuals during Nazism. Expressing his country’s opposition to the draft, he criticized attempts to legitimize Russian disinformation campaigns that denigrate neighbouring countries and promote the Soviet narrative. The United States will vote against the text and calls on others to do the same, he said.

    Yankees shut the fuck up about fighting for freedom and human rights challenge: Impossible

    The representative of Ukraine said sacrifices by Ukrainians made an enormous contribution to the victory over Nazism. Recalling their struggle for the liberation of their native soil, he reaffirmed Ukraine’s strong condemnation of all forms of Nazism, stressing that the text represents a clear manipulation of historical narratives, including the glorification of the Stalin regime. For this reason, Ukraine will vote against the draft.

    "We helped against nazis, that's why we allow them to do what they want in our country now."

    The representative of Belarus, associating with the Collective Security Treaty Organization, said the question of preventing Nazism has always been of paramount importance. Stressing that the Nazis perpetrated genocide against the Belarusian people, he said the fight against Nazism remains relevant.

    The representative of Slovenia, speaking on behalf of the European Union in explanation of vote after the vote, proposed strengthening human rights language by outlining a more inclusive approach. He expressed regret that this draft resolution does not reference all discriminatory forms of racist extremism in an impartial manner.

    "It's not good enough, so we abstained." because that makes sense.

    The representative of Jordan, expressing support for the objectives of the resolution, reaffirmed that Islamophobia goes beyond discrimination on the basis of belief or religion and encompasses hatred directed by entities and individuals against adherents of Islam.

    The representative of Canada, speaking also on behalf of other countries, condemned any form of racism, including Nazism and neo-Nazism. He welcomed the establishment of the Permanent Forum on People of African Descent. Racism divides communities, breeds fear and animosity and remains a lived reality for many people globally, he said, calling for an intersectional approach to human rights. He expressed concern that the text miscategorises the obligations of Member States.

    :kkkanada: how many intersectional graves are the natives in again?

    The representative of the Russian Federation voiced regret over the position of those who voted against the draft. Contrary to allegations, the Russian Federation does not misuse the victory against Nazism, he said, emphasizing that it is a common achievement for all Member States and the anti-Hitler coalition.

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I love how the majority of objecting boils down to "We would, but you mentioned that the soviets helped stop the nazis so we're gonna say no on principle."

      Like holy shit, how petty can they get? They're supposed to be adults but here they are acting like pissy little teenagers.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Every western liberal: "No! I don't want to say 'Nazis bad' until you say that the people who defeated them were at least just as bad!"

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      The representative of the United States, condemning the glorification of Nazism, recalled that his country fought for the freedom, dignity and human rights of all individuals during Nazism.

      Especially the Nazis themselves who all got slaps on the wrists and fancy new jobs in amerikkka thanks to Project Paperclip.

      :amerikkka:

  • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Maybe they were trying to come up with a UN resolution that only the US and Israel would vote against. As a bit.

          • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            There are two very different kinds of knows better.

            There's knowing better than to hurt others and then there's knowing better like a serial killer knows better than to get caught.

            I think most of us understood which you meant, at least I did.

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      See s0ngs0ng's comment for the US explanation.

      spoiler‼

      They literally believe in :freeze-peach: for Nazis.

      And the biggest way to get yourself owned by Russia is to vote against Nazi-shaming.

    • Gosplan14 [any]
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      3 years ago

      There's actually a pretty consistent way to get such a result in the UN. Just issue a condemnation of the Cuban Embargo and behold, the US and Israel voting against, with a couple of minor countries abstaining.

  • AssaultRifle15 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Not surprised to see Canada abstaining, wouldn't want to upset the good folks of the Azov Battalion.

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      It was a UN vote on committing to taking action against nazi propaganda, this shows who voted for, against, and who abstained

      • Funkydick [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        A link or something? The resolution is cut off and the graphic is blurry, among other things. Looks like all the votes aren't even in yet. Iran and others are black.

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    is this old i would bet brazil would at least abstain with bolsonaro on the government. *edit: just saw the date wild

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    dammit. I was going to guess the US and Liberia 😔

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 years ago

    This again? I could have sworn there was a resolution exactly along these lines a few years ago, that went exactly the same way.