Hit em with their own shields.
i think this is why they usually use roman style shields, among other reasons - its harder to do that to, they can plant it on the ground without having to move much. also riot shields don't have metal rims or anything like that i'm not sure it'd hurt that much.
the best way to defeat a roman style shield afaik is to do to it what the romans themselves did, throw a heavy dart in it to make the shield to heavy/awkward to use. you can't really bring pillum to a protest, maybe you could use glue or cement to make them useless i dunno.
Too many posts about how comrades need to buy guns and not enough posts about how comrades need to make pila
Remember: Cops are the roman heavy infantry and you're the chad barbarian light infantry
Massive systemic collapse in the heart of the empire! And lead poisoning!
yeah bring festival paint powder & turn all ur protests into Holi
For sure. There's going to be specific circumstances to look out for where it will be practical.
This isn't just for cops though, after watching the clashes with fascists yesterday this would have been extremely practical against them. Cops have full face shields in addition to their riot shields and they're usually (but not always) conscious of keeping the mask behind their shield. You can hit em when they're less conscious of it and can get the shield to pop their face underneath the cover though.
The masked police are VERY vulnerable too. Any time they're deploying teargas they mask up and getting bopped with the shield is going to expose them to their own teargas.
The fascists in the clashes the other day had no masks at all and trash wooden shields. They all would have had broken noses from this technique.
Cement sounds like a good potential idea. Or any other method people can think of to stick something weighty and unwieldy to the shield.
This kick technique will also work well against the smaller round shield police. At least in some circumstances.
yeah it's good to share techniques they all have their use. though from the picture, it also looks like you need a big sword to wave to make the pig raise their shield high - i don't usually see pigs raising their shields much because the missiles being thrown aren't usually enough at a protest to get past the helmets they have.
is there any way (i'm not in the US) the protesters might (safely) organise to find out where this kind of gear gets stored and transported, & is such a place easily flammable? i dunno how realistic this kind of thing wld be, but the pigs will always out-gear you, can you attack their supply lines in various cities?
I can't say about storage and supply but that's definitely a valid tactic. In the earliest days when the precincts were burned the reason they had such incredible successes was because they sieged the precincts and baited shooting from the police for so long that they ran out of all ammunition for rubber/pepper shots. Upon being reduced to only having batons and shields to defend their precincts with they abandoned the building.
Baiting fire from them until they run out of everything they have is absolutely valid. I don't see enough baiting of a constant response anymore. People stand around a lot, looking at the police and waiting for something to happen then they all start spouting off "they're moving" and "what're they going to do". All initiative is lost through this inaction. Through constantly forcing them to use their ammunition up they get depleted into positions they no longer wish to hold.
One difference I've noticed between the american police and the euro police is that the american cops are completely and utterly terrified of any close-quarters clashing. They are very clearly more comfortable at range. I suspect this is because of how heavily trained on gun use they are and how they've been made terrified of the knife wielding assailants that will defeat their guns in close quarters over many decades through their training videos. In Europe our cops aren't scared of the personal stuff, direct face to face clashing on the shield wall is not unusual nor avoided by them. You can win victories and cause retreats just by running down the ammo of these american cops. Get shields, wear padding and armour, force them to waste that shit through being a constant harrasser.
I wouldn't try it exactly like this. But especially with riot cops, who aren't going to be carrying sharp weapons that will kill you in seconds, you can go low and grab the underside of the shield and pull upward to throw them off balance.
But kicking / hooking the underside with your foot just seems like a good way to get shoved on your ass.
i used to train mma and the basic lesson about kicking was don't do it because unless you're already in a dominant position (at which point it's probably not an optimal move) you're just going to weaken yourself by throwing yourself off balance. (obviously if you have years of training under your belt it's different but 99.9% of people don't)
It looks cool until you've just landed on the ground and their buddies run to you to start stomping your face in, quickly joined by the unaware target who at best has just had the equivalent of a mean shove.
I'm guessing low velocity, high mass projectiles are the way to go.
Seems like a really good way to break a toe if you're not wearing strong boots
Dont perform stuff you see in movies and sketchy self defense books in real life....
