• Dear_Occupant [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What blows me away about this stuff is that we have some pretty fucking extensive information about what a mass extermination looks like. It's a huge goddamn operation with a hell of a lot of unique logistical challenges. If you have even the slightest familiarity with the history of the Holocaust you ought to know this. Like how the fuck do you dispose of millions of corpses? It's not easy, and a decomposing human body becomes a biological hazard within about a day.

    So in order to buy this story, we not only have to believe that the Chinese government has replicated this feat in a much shorter amount of time than the Nazis did, but that they have also somehow kept it hidden. It's just ridiculous on its face. Where are the aerial photographs, where is the smoke from the incinerators, where are the massive stockpiles of quicklime that would be required, where is the transport network, the rail cars, basically anything you would associate with an operation of this scale and complexity? China isn't that fucking big that they could hide something like this. Also, the question that no one has even bothered to offer an answer for: why? What could they possibly get out of doing this?

    So many of these stories can be debunked if you just think about them critically for a minute. So you're telling me DPRK citizens believe that Kim Jong Il never took a shit, huh? Damn, I guess they'll just swallow anything they're told over there. Including, apparently, the dogs. Fuck me, use your heads people.

    • cutie [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      This was the exact thing that switched me from believing this stuff. When you actually think about the logistics of it all it kinda just falls apart, where would they even keep 9 million people? There's like 2.5 million people in total incarcerated in the whole of the US

    • Lerios [hy/hym]
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      4 years ago

      the question that no one has even bothered to offer an answer for: why?

      dumb fucking commie. it's like you people don't know that China bad

    • JudgeJuche [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The fact that we have so little evidence proves just how sneaky those asiatics are!

    • VILenin [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      There are now 12 million uighurs in the camps!

      • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        2035: US state department has condemned China for their genocide of 3 trillion uighur muslims. The US is still bombing Afghanistan and Guantanamo is still open.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'm certain this ridiculous nonsense is derived from the vocational centers being a revolving door-type program. Like they originally got the "1 million Uighurs detained" by surveying random villages on how many of their fellows were "detained" and would get a ~10% proportion most of the time. So they widened that proportion to the entire population.

      They're probably making this new shit up by asking how many people in a small sample size have been to a camp or know others who have been, and get high proportions. So they widen the proportion again to draw ridiculous conclusions about how 80% of an ethnic group are in camps.

      Whats probably actually happening is that these Uighurs are forced to attend a job training program for a certain amount of time a year and rotate out on a large scale.

    • VILenin [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      There's a non-zero chance that the people who believe this shit would believe The Protocols of Zion if "the Jews" were replaced with "the Chinese".

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      How can they say this shit when entire fucking cities would be empty if it were true?

      And conversely, entire fucking cities would be required to house all the prisoners.

  • Randomdog [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    9 million people in one tiny two story building! Damn that Chinese Efficiency.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Convert to what? jfc Chinese religion isn't fucking evangelical.

    • Wogre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There some some chucklehead chuds out there who unironically call communism a religion.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        "China seeks to destroy their culture via forced conversion to Rastafarianism"

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    "Detained" here meaning "Brought in for a 20 min chat about how you are vague acquaintances with a guy who blew up a railway station and can you help us fill in some details."

    • VILenin [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      China actually hired 11 million actors to play the part of everyday Uighers!

    • KiaKaha [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It’s gonna be like the claims of Tibetan genocide. In a decade we’ll see Xinjiang ticking along, and no genocide to see.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Ah yes, 90% of Tibet's population was killed. Don't ask the people there though, they didn't see it happen.

  • CMEPT [any]
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    4 years ago

    Yet we incarcerate several times more people than China with 1/5 the population and detain a far higher percentage of immigrants. The vast majority get out within 2-5 months, which would be a best case scenario here before getting deported.