https://www.reddit.com/r/FolkPunk/comments/19f7xe6/should_i_break_up_with_my_girlfriend_for_not/

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    10 months ago

    lmfao this is clearly fake but funny as hell. All he needed to insert was an unrelated rant about an AES country and I could believe this is a real anarchist.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    "I sleep in a rusted out CNT/FAI armoured car. I wear a red and black bandana everywhere and I haven't smiled since the Haymarket Martyrs died. I'm a normal person and people like me"

  • sourquincelog [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    These sound like two very annoying people, I hope for everyone else's sake, they work it out

    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
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      10 months ago

      The bad praxis started way before, when they decided to host their group in a closed source, private company service instead of self host a free software service. If he's getting a virus is because he use windows too, imagine calling yourself anarchist and be owned by Microsoft.

  • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    folk punk hate? on my hexbear? some of you have never passed out face down in a boxcar forty in both hands and it shows

    (on another note, we don't have normal emojis anymore? i need my little guy blowing air out his nostrils)

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    when it's her turn to wake up at 6am and water the chickens

    if youuuuuuu think getting up early to take care of the homestead is a "taking turns" kind of thing, you might not be a redneck

    • farting_weedman [none/use name]
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      10 months ago

      It’s nice that people have the idea of equity in mind when describing an idealized work structure, but it’s a constant negotiation and ought to be.

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        I wasn't describing an ideal work structure, just a reality if you have a homestead and two people living on it

        • farting_weedman [none/use name]
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          10 months ago

          Oh no, I agree. They’re your chores or the other persons chores until someone gets too overwhelmed to handle it then they fall to the other person until the same thing happens again like one of those giant rotating pendulums swinging around knocking the dominos down in slow motion.

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Yeah “watering the chickens” is the least of your worries on a small farm. Literally just put a bucket of water in there for them and swap it out for clean water every once and a while. There’s a hundred other more pressing tasks

  • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    Wingnut Dishwashers Union

    middle school battle of the bands ass name

    I literally had to look it up to see if this was a bit that name is so dumb.

            • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              I actually only know these bands at all from torrenting a huge file of twee/indie pop stuff on a whim when I was like 19 and I listened very unevenly to it. I know the phrase throw Aggi off the bridge but only from a Tullycraft song that referenced it, don't think I've ever even listened to Black Tambourine.

              I don't even know what made me do this, I think maybe I watched But I'm a Cheerleader and really liked the Go Sailor songs?

              • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                10 months ago

                Sean from Tullycraft along with his wife Liz have a wonderful indie pop radio show on Friday nights called Pop Songs your new boyfriend's too stupid to know about on Space 101FM out of Seattle. They upload the shows online if you want to jump back in to the current indie pop landscape. It's how I discovered Me Rex among others.

        • WithoutFurtherBelay
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          10 months ago

          No vibes are “objectively the worst” because everything that flows from a human mind without reproducing reactionary thought is enough. Putting arbitrary limitations on the art one has to produce, or trying to coerce other’s art into these little corners of what is “cool” or “not cringe”, is the root cause of the more “intellectual” forms of cringe culture and the numerous sacrifical trash of the week rage bait right wing youtuber content mills.

          People on the internet in general need to learn that, while it’s perfectly fine to dislike something, not vibe with it, whatever, that that doesn’t make it “bad” and even if saying it’s “bad” isn’t meant in any sort of “objective” way, it still reproduces and reinforces a culture of self-policed expression, of masking.

          Lots of critiques people make on the internet of things other than music still work because it always consists of something other than just “it’s bad”. It’s always, “oh, this reproduces this ideology I don’t like”, or “oh, it doesn’t make sense because of this plot hole”. But because any sort of similar trait in music can be equally desirable for another person as it is repugnant for the one pointing it out, you can’t really do this with music, unless you’re critiquing lyrics or a music video specifically.

          I don’t see any room for calling music (or it’s titles) good or bad beyond mean-spirited bullying, which yes, can be good, if it’s reactionary music. Punk isn’t, well, most of the time.

          The fact of the matter is that this is just objectively wrong, and plenty of people like “whimsical” things, and plenty of people DESPISE “whimsical” things, and plenty of people just don’t care, and that’s going to be a thing with any vibe or aesthetic until the sun boils over.

          • BovineUniversity
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            10 months ago

            You're absolutely correct about everything except the things you're wrong about.

          • oktherebuddy
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            10 months ago

            Lots of critiques people make on the internet of things other than music still work because it always consists of something other than just “it’s bad”. It’s always, “oh, this reproduces this ideology I don’t like”, or “oh, it doesn’t make sense because of this plot hole”.

            Under communism only CinemaSins style movie criticism is allowed?

            • WithoutFurtherBelay
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              10 months ago

              no, you're right, the "plot hole" criticisms are dumb too. We will only allow criticisms of doo doo penis butts

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      10 months ago

      y'know i've seen the same band
      so many dozens of times
      but with dozens of different names
      across dozens of different state lines
      and I won't always admit it
      but I think that the world's better off with them in it
      so if we're pickin sides
      i guess that i am for every shitty three-chord high school punk band

    • WithoutFurtherBelay
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      10 months ago

      what is wrong with hexbear users and punk? actually, scratch that, what's wrong with them and music in general? can't go a single second mentioning a band or something without someone shitting out their own random take about music as if it's a gift from God themself.

      • bestmiaou@lemmygrad.ml
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        10 months ago

        you come onto the Posters Instance, and complain about people posting about one of the most postable topics in existence

        • WithoutFurtherBelay
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          10 months ago

          It’s not the posting, it’s the posting as if your post is somehow objective fact

          like “i dont like this genre” is a normal and fair thing that people say, but “this genre is BAD” is a weird way to put it

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            10 months ago

            You can interpret through context cues whether a statement is an opinion or a fact without someone pointing it out as a disclaimer. If I say 'the red hot chili peppers suck', it should be pretty easy to figure out its a subjective statement because whether or not music is bad is inherently subjective and you can tell its just my opinion because I'm the one who said it. No one is ever stating that these are demonstrable facts because that would be impossible so even if somehow that is what they mean it can't possibly be true and must therefore be a statement of their opinion despite their intent and should be treated as such.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                10 months ago

                My gripes are personal. I've lost all my high school friend to folk punk, not that they died from it, (those were people I met later) they just started dressing like Peter pan and calling themselves stuff like Feather and Navi and starting bands called Drop Out/Fall in Love and Buy Nothing Life despite being recent high school graduates with swimming pools cause at the end of the day they were just upper class band geeks. Punk is loud and noisy rock n roll that gives you permanent hearing loss from basement shows. Punk is about wearing studs and having cool hair.

                Me barely ironically

                • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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                  10 months ago

                  "Real Punk" only consists of the nyc/london Classic Punk scene and the 80's hardcore scene and its descendants. What is known by "Folk Punk" is nothing but Folk music with questionable real punk influence. When people try to argue that bands like Billy Bragg are not real punk, while saying that Johnny Hobo is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake punk as Billy Bragg (plus the adolescent cringe). Real punk sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake punk is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL PUNK are Amebix, Catharsis, Blackbird Raum (the only real punk band from the folk punk scene) and Man is the Bastard. Some examples of FAKE PUNK are Pat the Bunny, Chris Burrows and Defiance, Ohio PUNK BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO FOLK, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

            • WithoutFurtherBelay
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              10 months ago

              No, It’s consistently treated as fact and used as a way to ridicule and attack people. Not in this thread, but previous ones.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                10 months ago

                A person can speak an opinion objectively and it's still an opinion. It's a very very common use of speech. That doesn't mean it isn't inherently an opinion, if you respond to an opinionative statement as if it were factual I'd say that's more on the respondent. If someone is stating an opinion factually and making bild statements around it, they could in fact be using hyperbole. This is all really normal forms of communication thst as soon as people log on they lose the ability to parse.

                • WithoutFurtherBelay
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                  10 months ago

                  Im not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying that a lot of (other to be honest because it’s not really present here) times I’ve seen people then take that opinion and then start attacking or demeaning for instance, people who like what they said they dislike. I’m talking about music here specifically, not Treat Discourse.

                  I am somewhat disconnected from the whole thing because I have a hard time really, like, genuinely finding genres bad. There’s probably something out there I dislike but calling it “bad” gives me bad feelings, because I’m constantly aware of the fact that other people can have different tastes, and have had my tastes change dramatically, so I could just end up accidentally implying I have bad taste later in life or something.

                  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                    10 months ago

                    I think I can enlighten a bit. Music dorks who are REALLY into stuff and especially similar genres where you can split hairs and be nervy have a tradition of being harsher than they really mean or making disagreements seem bigger than they are. I used to argue passionately and loudly about music with this older dude who ran a record store and midway he stopped as any 35 year old arguing with a 15 year old did and asked "just to be sure, you're having fun right now right?" And I totally was cause arguing passionate with people over which album by The Cure and going full debate lord about it (it's Seventeen Seconds btw) is fun as hell for many people that are just that into music. There's a general understanding that it's dumb as hell at the end of the day. This especially applies to more underground stuff where if you're involved you probably know half of the people you're talking about.

                    And I will reiterate if you call.something bad it's the same as saying you don't think it's good because you're speaking about a subjective thing. I guess it's more assertive but that's it.

                    • WithoutFurtherBelay
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                      10 months ago

                      That’s actually really helpful, sorry about being a dick. I don’t have the important context of like, actual music scenes (I’m just some nerd), and it makes sense that people would sort of get more “serious” about it then they are… Like powerscaling but for music.

                      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                        10 months ago

                        Also personally, when I talk music, I know what I like and am passionate about by the general measure of what people enjoy in music is so far removed from my tastes that the diy punk music scene that has been a huge part of my life that it is considered by most to be objectively bad music and by any metric that music is measured, it totally is. So there's both a scrappy underdog thing and a massive sense of irony going on.

                        Like, not only is this what I listen to but know encyclopedically, participate in, and has influenced who my friends are, how I dress, act and talk since I was 13. Some music has subcultures as well, and punk is mine to the core, even though I'm less precious about it as I grow older, it's the biggest part of who I am. And the music sounds like...this

                        So when it comes to punk, it's less a musical thing and more of a subculture war thing. I've got beef with folk punk kids.

                        • WithoutFurtherBelay
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                          10 months ago

                          Ah, I’m misreading intonation, it’s not “folk punk is bad”, it’s “folk punk is bad”. I’ve seen people be very weird about punk before so my response might make more sense with that context. It makes perfect sense to have beef with something that is pretty much entreating on your subculture or feels like it’s co-opting it somewhat.

                          Also I apologize for comparing to powerscaling, that was a grievous and horrific insult and I do not think it is possible for me to make up for that

                          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                            10 months ago

                            I don't know what powerscaling even is tbh. It's also petty sectarianism that isn't really taken seriously person to person toooooooo much. At the end of the day we're all allies in what matters and are more silar to each other than the rest of the world. And folk punk isn't completely an incursion, the roots are there from the start with the pogues and the pub rock roots of early British punk, and if anyone even tries to deny that Mischief Brew or Against Me (up to and including As the Eternal Cowboy, I'm iffy after) isn't just really good tunes I'd have a hard time believing them, I also really like This Bike is a Pipe Bomb. It started as dirty punks writing acoustic songs to busk with and make cash and became the new Ska, a refuge for privileged band geeks but this one combined 1930s train hoppers with modern crusty squatters in a way that was cool until.tom waits fans got involved (no shade to.tom waits himself there)

                            • WithoutFurtherBelay
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                              10 months ago

                              Powerscaling is nerd petty sectarianism, it’s when they compare the power levels of Goku and Sans and argue about them until the sun explodes

                              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                                10 months ago

                                I do that for banter purposes at work but it's epy very silly. Like who would win between Snoopy and Kermit the Frog

      • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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        10 months ago

        shitting on things is funny? idk

        I have no strong opinions but I dont think that happens here much more than anywhere else online

        • spectre [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          The amount of time I spend with this community correlates with how different from other places online I perceive it to be. It's waxed and waned over the last 6 or so years, but lately I feel like I'm biding my time until someone enthusiastically different (better) than the rest of the Internet comes along

          • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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            10 months ago

            understandable

            I like it here, but I don't go on the rest of the internet basically at all so I have less and less frame of reference these days.

    • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      I like folk punk. Feather River Canyon blues is like one of my favorite albums. kitty-cri-texas

            • WithoutFurtherBelay
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              10 months ago

              Go fuck yourself, punk has genuinely good comrades in it. Look up GLOSS

              (Too hostile sorry)

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                10 months ago

                Yeah, but they don't have music. I'm very very aware of GLOSS. I've been involved in diy punk for over 20 years, I was just making a joke.

        • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          Meh. Looked it up, it's fine I guess. I like folk and bluegrass. Folkpunk is that, but manic and somehow gayer.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            10 months ago

            I'll allow folk punk to exist if it calls itself something different and the practioners stay away from the punk scene.

            • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              Nah. Not so long as Greenday call themselves "punk" will I allow Taxpayers and Dayz n Daze to get thrown under the bus.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                10 months ago

                I actually do like Green Day up to and invading Insomniac. And pop punk is well known entry level or poser shit and has a totally separate scene from diy punk, folk punk wants to be considered crust punk.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            10 months ago

            Imagine the worst house show you've ever been to

            "This song's called 'I Hate My Life But Live My Friends'"

            Friends: cheer

            Everyone else: silent

            *unintentionally muted or randomly sttummed too hard acoustic guitar *

            IM SAD

            CAUSE IM SOMEWHERE I DIDNT GROW UP

            PARKING LOT

            I HATE FRIEND

            I LOVE FRIEND

            I WISH THE LEFT WING REVOLVED AROUND ME

            AND MY FRUSTRATION WITH MY DAD

            • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              The only thing you could hope for at that point is some sweaty old d-beat fucks taking the stage

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                10 months ago

                Eh, we've got good not old dude punk bands, it's very Japanese noise weebshit which to me seems like an excuse to bring Street Punk back but either call it UK 82 or add pedals and call it a day. It's been boring as fuck lately.

                • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                  10 months ago

                  Lmao look at us: We're the "whatever you dang kids are doing you're doing it wrong even if it's good" guys now.

                  cat-vibing

                  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                    10 months ago

                    It's a bummer in North America that bands don't really tour. They just fly out to festivals and the audience is supposed to travel and shit like that. Rock star shit

                    • Ufot [he/him]
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                      10 months ago

                      What the hell are you even talking about? What are the bands that you like that used to tour and only play festivals now?

                      Covid fucked everything up.

                      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                        10 months ago

                        This predates covid and some just haven't really ever toured. Look at the lower half of the lineups for HAGL or Varning or Skullfest or whatever and any bands you find in common are probably doing that

  • sourquincelog [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Any cool gf would be asking bf to play Pat's Johnny Hobo stuff when he was still a nihilist

  • GarfGirl
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    10 months ago

    NTA, your chickens your rules