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  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Ahh it's that "post left" anarchist. So they're still a liberal.

    21 years old and "long term unemployed" just means this person has never had a job, how the hell can you be antiwork with no real world experience of what that is like. How can you claim to represent workers. This is a sick joke, priveleged westerners that have never worked a day in their lives trying to represent the working class.

    Also they mentioned that the other mod "went to shower" before going on Fox News. Like why is that worth mentioning? Do they not normally shower? If they're to depressed to shower, they have no business being on Fox News, that's a recipe for disaster, Fox News taking advantage of mentally ill people is one of their standard tactics.

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      It mainly means that person had a family which didn't have the financial resources for education etc imho.

    • CommCat [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      it would be the absolute cherry on top if this "post leftist" 21yr old, 1 yr old anarchist, that has never worked a day in his life turned out be trust fund kid. All the bad stereotypes about reddit mods and terminally online anarchists wrapped up in one.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I looked further and they're one of those "schools and teachers are bad" post leftists.

        Literally a walking stereotype

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            I just googled that and it's some fool that thinks agriculture is oppression.

            AAAAAAAAA wtf is up with people in the west!

            • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              To say that the left in the west is removedd by the fact of heavy state oppression is an understatement. They murdered everyone with a decent and working message.

    • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Too bad no one claims they represent anyone, they are moderating a sub because you know subs have to be moderated.

        • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          You've hit the nail on the head, media is trying to act as they are representatives, which they - as anarchists do - categorically reject. It sure does look to me that the media is painting a false narrative to stir shit in the community and people are lapping it up uncritically.

                • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  I'm defending them because they already owned up to it, because the whole debacle isn't worth this much and because if you looked at the sub it's very clear that the wholr drama is generated from outside by people who never posted on the sub but clearly aren't happy with anything but the current mods chased away and replaced by... Well i am willing to bet my ass that whomever they'd be replaed with wouldn't even bother to pay lip service to anarchist ideas, but i'd be surprised if they were even left leaning. Oh and another factor is that i think up until now they did a spectacular job modding the community, including the handling of this situation (okay, i wouldn't have removed the og mod, but whatever.

                  (btw i still think they fucked up by going to the interview, i just don't think it is worth half this much attention. If they refuse to go, that would've been held against them by Fox News as well and i am willing to bet my ass again that the same people would've called for the resignation of the mods again, because they failed to reach over the aisle or some similar bullshit.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What this whole thread tells me is basically what I've suspected from the outset. The mods of /r/antiwork aren't organizers, they are never going to be organizers, and in fact they can barely be described as hobbyists. The community is right to constantly refrain "the mods are not the movement", but the impulse from them to move to another subreddit is just repeating the same mistake over again - but that's a mistake they will inevitably make, because the subscribers to the subreddit aren't actually members of any kind of movement, they're fucking half-cocked hobbyists too!

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/Ou7ULz3wcE.jpg?format=webp I'm going to post this in his thread. What a vile little child and fuck the mods that gave him leadership.

    • ViveLaCommune [any]
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      3 years ago

      according to the definition he linked, seems like a convoluted way to spell "liberalism" (not even a joke)

    • jackmarxist [any]
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      3 years ago

      2 months old account, denounces leftism on a leftist leaning sub and gives secret interviews on the behalf of people who don't even know him and did not agree to him representing them. No way this guy ain't a plant.

  • geikei [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    This is the most embarrassing day in anglo online left history, a record that will be broken by every subsequent day in anglo online left's history.

    Like literally what the fuck is this? Yeah as an outsider i have joked and dunk on anglo brained radlibs that give zero shit about dicipline, organization and theory and on movements or groups that fall victims to that(mostly because things like these are posted or highlighted by users here or in the old sub) but what the fuck is this ?

    You cant parody this even if you tried

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    did like five other interviews with major outlets that have yet to be released

    oh shit, oh fuck

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    If he's desperate for money I can see why. Maybe he's getting paid.

    The news outlets taking advantage of someone who is barely an adult should be ashamed of themselves too. No one knows what they're doing at 21.

    Also can libs stop calling themselves anarchists pls

      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        clout-chasing clowns

        This always happens when a sub suddenly gets too large, especially this quickly. Just to control the traffic you have to essentially hire full-time "professional" mods who quickly acquire overinflated egos (if they didn't have one already).

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        That sounds like what most of the young guys/gals I know want to do. Can't say I blame them.

      • regul [any]
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        3 years ago

        this clout shit funny to me

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      This person is also the "post left" asshole. So this person that picked their ideology out of a random draw and has little life experience has now been interviewed multiple times to represent the antiwork subreddit.

      :sus-deep: :agony-limitless:

  • thirstywizard [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    They were fucked when they took out MLs, historical vanguard for a reason baby. Instead, they'd rather make the same mistakes of the 1920s labor movement 100 years later, we'll only move backwards until they fuckin read and do their mutual aid projects with careful thought and goals, rather than simple terminal online inaction or infinite projects with no vision.

    • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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      3 years ago

      They were fucked when they got sectarian. Dividing the left is fucking stupid, especially in the imperial core. It's baby-brained duebro behavior.

      • ferristriangle [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Censorship is good actually.

        Any competent party never would have let this person go on Fox News. Message discipline exists for a reason, and this whole event shows why you only let trained and knowledgeable experts who are accountable to the people through democratic centralism handle sensitive and important tasks like this. One person's ego just did irreparable damage to the interests of that group's 1.6 million members.

      • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        External censorship is good. You want to have a unified front. Internally, you discuss and talk through stuff, reach a consensus, and then everyone states that externally.

        A group censoring who can speak for them is democratic because it prevents people from acting unilaterally and shit.

        Agree with ya on elitism and nepotism.

  • LaBellaLotta [any]
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    3 years ago

    Yah know I didn’t have a lot of hope for a big Reddit community but I don’t generally have a lot of hope to begin with so all and all this shit has me feelin kinda bleak

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          3 years ago

          The media spectacle is going to become a way of Other-ing anyone who says they don't want to work anymore.

          But the material conditions will continue to deteriorate. Workers will continue to run scarce. We're militarizing the border in a country with negative population growth and a large retirement population.

          All the PsyOps in the world won't change that.

          • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            But raising interest rates will. I foresee a bunch of businesses going out and a massive influx of unemployed workers and former business owners, which sadly, is one of those things that leads to more militant facism.

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              3 years ago

              Raising the interest rate won't contract the demand for real labor. It will simply constrict the supply of treats, as smaller firms tumble into bankruptcy.

              It'll also spike domestic debt financing, which will trigger higher deficits and drive up the import/export deficit. Absolutely poisonous for smaller and more rural communities.

              I don't doubt we'll see more militant fascism. But the places we'll see it - the rural northwest and the deindustrialized Midwest - are already firmly in the grip of concervative politics. These fascists will become a destabilizing influence on corporate control of smaller territories. It'll be a thousand little Jan 6ths.

                • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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                  3 years ago

                  :biden-harbinger: 2005 Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act

              • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                Raising the interest rate won’t contract the demand for real labor. It will simply constrict the supply of treats, as smaller firms tumble into bankruptcy.

                So those bankrupt firms won't be employing anyone anymore, which will decrease the demand for labor and make unemployment go up.

                • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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                  3 years ago

                  Smaller firms can get replaced with larger ones. People can change what and how they consume. We saw this shift with Walmarts - one big box would replace an entire downtown's worth of independent retailers. But unemployment didn't rise with the advent of Walmart. You just saw more indie owners become assistant managers and department supervisors, while the retail workers changed hats.

                  Higher interest rates put firms like Walmart in a bind, because it does nothing to change the man-hours they need to maintain operations. They either give up territory to a rival firm willing to pay higher wage rates or they find somewhere else to cut.

                  I suspect real estate prices will be what really take a hit in the event of another Volcker shock.

        • Melon [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          no way nerds who spend too much time on the internet can be that out of touch

          they can make Chris Hedges look like the Fonz just by sitting next to him in a room