:sick

  • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Anyone else feel like cracks are beginning to show with regards to the legitimacy of the American™ project as a whole? I feel like everything has gotten so psychotic and everything on the ground just disconnected from the narrative that journos like this are starting to see that it's all completely bullshit.

    • asustamepanteon [comrade/them, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      :inshallah: the cracks reveal that liberalism has been blocking The One True Light of Allah.

      anyways, people outside the US can learn that US 'coke or pepsi' politics is a sham: the cool thing about the US is the shininess of it all, the privilege the US had of being on top.

      so for migrants, despite its horrors on the ground (sadly, we're already used to beggars and the less fortunate), skyscrapers rise above the smog and shine thru it. things move, money moves along with it. money for our families back home. so anyone outside from Latam, for example, (in my case, mexico) that comes to the US just looks up, and goes "wow" OoO... for a while.

      yeah, but after a while, being inside the US... it feels fucking pointless tbh (Don't Stop Believing Tho, this is just my shitty pov) to advocate for something better sometimes. Don't Stop Doing That Though.

      I coincide with @Frogmanfromlake, I hear my family members talk a lot about moving to Canada instead of the US recently.

      • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I get the feeling my dad regrets having immigrated here. I think that is sometimes foolish but seeing how his life is I kinda see why but at the same time it's really :thinking-about-it:

        I feel like a lot of older LatAm immigrants become really disillusioned, like behind the bubbly personalities we tend to have there is a lot of resentment among some of the older coworkers I've had who immigrated from Mexico. The Central Americans tend to be less bitter (probably because their countries are even poorer, I think?) but a lot of older Mexican people seem pretty wistful. In the USA we as a group even after the civil rights movement have some of the worst outcomes across the board in all metrics.

        The USA wasn't always this fucking awful though, a lot of older people have told me it was super nice until like Reagan, and my dad got here during Reagan and he said "it was a lot better and cheaper" and it seems like only in the last twenty years have things gone conmpletely down the toilet. Even in my life I've seen pretty measured decline, the last five years have been fucking insane in terms of how much overall quality of life has gone down, but I think that is because the symobiosis of tech/landlords is a malignant influence in my specific area.

        • asustamepanteon [comrade/them, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I'm gonna say we are very prone to nostalgia (pulling out my 100% Hecho en México card) because we cherish our homes, our barrios, and although it's bruised and broken: we love México. So, for that, I'm sorry for being wistful at times lmao.

          And neoliberalism hasn't fully arrived over there: you know this, but Latam (global south, in general) has been really resistant to it: the lack of infrastructure that capitalism needs to expand has been like it's unintentional defense, and because they don't wanna spend money lmao (fucking cheapskates) they don't 'develop' unless 'really' 'necessary', so it hasn't dissolved society down to bare individuals yet <- pure speculation.

          Yeah, my parents are that way too. They both, they're divorced, go back to their respective small towns back in Mexico every year. It was a lot better and cheaper, because of less inflation (you know this already)... but like if you lived most of your life outside the US, and, once inside it, you are presented the abundance of things you've never even seen before; it was like a high, for them. That's what I think.

          Living inside the US isn't fucking awful *, it's political culture has become increasingly inane and annoying... social life is very isolated. I can't tell you how it's changed the last two years, sorry, that's when I entered the scene.

          • huge addition, myopic pov 'i survived'. I forgot about literally every oppressed minority out there.
          • princeofsin [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Living inside the US isn’t fucking awful,

            Try being a muslim from Pakistan, having FBI come to your home after 9/11 to search your house, after the parklend shooting FBI comes over your house to talk to you (American shooter), being called a terrorist throughout your middle/high school experience, and now as a DACA recipient you are stuck in fucking limbo as time passes by. Real good fuck time

              • princeofsin [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                No fam that wasn't i was trying to say. I really hate it here as my life is frozen. I'm pissed, depressed, sad, lonely all at the same time and i just wornder what i did to deserve any of this. No ill will towards you.

          • AtomPunk [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Living inside the US isn’t fucking awful, it’s political culture has become increasingly inane and annoying… social life is very isolated.

            The material wealth earned here is much more than anything my dad could’ve gotten back home in his rancho. But back there, there’s actual community. You go down the street and see people and you say hi to them and have a convo. There’s walkable town centers where sometimes bailes take place. (Granted small towns are insular asf but still)

            Here in the US you go to work, put in your 8/10/12+ hours and you go back home. You know your neighbors less than even your coworkers. There’s no social binder to bring people together. There’s even less material wealth to go around the more the US slides into the cool zone.

            I know it makes my parents feel bad when I talk bad about this country though, as if I don’t like this gift I’ve been given. I try to keep a lid on it, for the most part.

            • asustamepanteon [comrade/them, he/him]
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              3 years ago

              You know your neighbors less than even your coworkers. There’s no social binder to bring people together.

              It sucks. When I started working here in the US, I met my first 3 IRL libertarians at work: straight-up 'copy paste most of the tropes' personalities. And where I rent, no-one outside, unbelievable.

              I know it makes my parents feel bad when I talk bad about this country though

              That happens a lot between my parents and me as well, I jokingly tell them every year that 'this year it finally tumbles down'... I know how much they suffered and what they sacrificed to get here.

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Definitely see it here in Central America. More people talk about wanting to immigrate to Canada or the EU. Someone I knew dated an American and was horrified at the thought of having to move there lmao

      From my limited experience, Europeans still seem to worship the US based on pop culture with dreams of moving to California.

    • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      I became a citizen recently (don’t judge!), and although Covid is a big part of it, the citizenship ceremony was utterly underwhelming and bizarre. We shuffled into a room, a supervisor from the USCIS came out, we stood and gave the oath and then shuffled out again. We were given a QR Code that goes to a webpage with some videos we could watch instead.

      Now obviously, I don’t care either way, but for some folks who have been waiting decades for that moment…it was just remarkable how much the whole thing felt like a shrug from the government.

        • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          “Do you support the constitution of the United States?”

          Yes! Internally: If you take the constitution to be the geological content of North America, absolutely

          “Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?”

          No! Internally: they probably wouldn’t want me anyway, I’m too much of a lib :deeper-sadness:

          CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE AMERICAN NOW

        • RandyLahey [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          "nope its okay guys im the worlds most laughable centrist"

          :lt-dbyf-dubois:

          SIKE :mazovian-thought: :mazovian-thought: :mazovian-thought: :mazovian-thought: :mazovian-thought:

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      An AP reporter this adamantly insisting that the word of the US government isn't valid evidence and demanding proof of their allegations feels like a big deal?

    • chiefecula [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      That's just confirmation bias. The cracks were always here, you just weren't paying attention. I'm sure there were journalists asking similar questions before the Iraq war, but no one remembers them because it didn't make any impact.

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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    3 years ago

    “If you don’t trust the us govt at face value maybe you’d rather listen to the Russian, traitor!”

    What a fucking liar dude! What a fucking weasely, little, liar dude. What a fucking weasely little LIAR dude. Holy shit dude. Holy fucking shit dude. Literally lying! Still lying to his audience!

    • rubpoll [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Literally last week: CIA says Havanah Syndrome - whatever it is - isn't a foreign country's doing.

      Today: HAVANA SYNDROME IS DEFINITELY BRAIN LASERS

      • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        THIS LITERALLY HAPPENED. Biden appointed someone as the head of something Havana Syndrome office of something a couple of days ago.

        edit here it is https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/biden-appoints-coordinator-to-probe-havana-sy-1460916.html

  • princeofsin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    We all know the US govt never lies and only crazy leftist are the ones that believe they do. Do you guys not remember the WMD's in Iraq?

  • djphdk [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    That little scoff at 2:04. That's the noise condescending assholes make when they're lying.

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I hope pushing back on US bullshit this way becomes the norm one day

    • spectre [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think this is where you get when you have Iraq/Afghanistan and how that's "wrapped up" as of recent, so a decent sector (like tens of percent is all I'm saying) of the American public really doesn't want that bullshit again. As the US state quickly loses legitimacy between Bush, Trump, and Biden, there's enough of a foothold opening up for an "anti-war" position to break through the barriers that have usually been there.

      As domestic problems continue to flare up, people are going to demand that the focus be on (usually ghoulish) solutions to those things, rather on going to war for treats they aren't getting anyway. As that contradiction becomes more intense you'll see more of this.

    • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Anytime the govt gets pressured they just say “uh the sources are classified and we can’t release too much info otherwise we’ll jeopardize their safety.” That’s all they need to say and everyone else nods along.

      • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        It's a brilliant ploy too - if the Russians do post the (alleged) Alex Jones crisis actor video (or whatever the CIA claim as such) they can say they were two steps ahead of the devious ruskies, and if they don't release the faked video they can them claim that it was all thanks to their pre-emptive leak of "the intelligence"; it's win-win no matter what!

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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          3 years ago

          He all but spells this out in the video. When the journalist keeps pressing him for evidence, he goes into, this is why we're doing this, if they release a video we'll have discredited it already, if they don't, then we'll look like we deterred them, and goes on like, "You don't seem to understand the idea of deterrence." If you read between the lines, he's really giving the game away: the announcement is motivated by strategic reasons, it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

          It's a pretty obvious tell, trying to fall back onto the reasoning used to justify the lie and even trying to push the journalist to agree that that justification makes it ok. Idk where they're getting feds these days but this guy's a real amateur. Too much of a conscience tbh, press him a little and the justifications just start pouring out, cause he wants sleep at night. Hopefully we see more of him (especially with that reporter) but if anybody has a brain they'll give his job to a sociopath soon enough.

        • Ecoleo [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Wait, what's this about an Alex Jones crisis actor video?

          Edit; didn't watch the video nvm

  • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Holy shit, idk who the hell Matt is but he's relentless here. That's a man who's done with the bullshit. :rat-salute: to him for this one, at least

  • Mabbz [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    matt was never seen or heard from again

  • D61 [any]
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    3 years ago

    "I promise you that Stacy said to Wendy, who said to Brandy that Brandon likes you... "

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Body shaming is bad but why the fuck this ghoul looks so much like a tapeworm