• Virgil_Is_Dead [any]
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    3 years ago

    ... what's up with the pork fat?

    Edit: was unaware Chechnya is a Muslim region. Y'all the real MVPs.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Nazis think that if you kill a Muslim with a pork fat bullet then they don't go to paradise because Islam considers pigs unclean. As you'd expect from Nazis, it's based on a gross oversimplification and misunderstanding of Islam, and it's a trope that's been around since at least the Iraq War.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        But wouldn't a Christian Nazi believe Muslims didn't go to heaven, no matter what?

            • Animasta [any]
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              3 years ago

              You know how Catholic used to believe that unbaptized babies go to purgatory until recently? Seems like the same kind of thinking.

              • sappho [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                pedantic ex-Catholic voice Actually, the unbaptized babies were supposed to go to limbo, not purgatory, which is worse. In purgatory you can work off your sins and eventually get into heaven; in limbo you are just stuck for all eternity doing nothing. That's the horrifying bit that the Church no longer officially endorses

            • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Of course they don't want to get shot and killed, but making them think they'll be damned and killed might make them more reluctant to fight . That's what I think the logic was

              • Petromancy [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                Except no Muslim would fall for that, it’s not a sin if a haram substance is forced into your body by kinetic force against your will.

                It’s just an islamophobic signal.

      • morte [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        According to a friend of mine the trope has been around for a very, very long time (though with swords before the development of firearms). Unfortunately I can't find any information on it - my searches are mainly turning up stuff about the twitter post

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Chechnya is a Muslim region. Putin sent them into Ukraine. Azov greased their bullets because they think that’ll curse Muslims to hell as if getting shot involuntarily is the same as ingesting pork voluntarily lol

      It’s cut off from the pic, but the video was posted by an official and verified Ukrainian military page

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Smearing pork products on Muslim stuff is a common Islamophobic attack. Gammons really think pork is some kind of Muslim kryptonite.

        • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Aren't Muslims permitted to commit certain "sins" if it saves the lives of others or yourselves?

          Like if you were dying and only had pork you could eat it?

          • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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            3 years ago

            I think in both Judaism and Islam, the only thing you are not permitted to do to save someone's life is to deny/blaspheme against/reject God.

            But when we're talking about war, it really ends up being nothing more than an attempt at an offensive gesture.

            • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              There’s a fairly old Talmudic rule of three things you can’t do even to save a life (including your own): murder (an innocent person), blaspheme, and commit sexually immoral acts.