https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-job-satisfaction-unhappy-work-salary-promotion-loyalty-2024-2
More young people are saying the same thing: Salary and career growth are the most important things about a job. And it could explain why Gen Z workers are so much more unsatisfied with their jobs than their older colleagues.
Older generations are such bootlickers.
The boomer above me at work can't understand why we can't find new staff, to which I always reply, "we don't pay enough, so they can get a better deal somewhere else easily"
She always replies, "well, we don't want to find people who are only in it for the money"
Lmao, good luck with that. Every workplace is a shithole, so the idea of "company loyalty" is just a means for workers to put up with more for less. Younger people aren't falling for it.
I tell her nobody under 50 thinks that way, and she's not having it.
The boomer above me at work can't understand why we can't find new staff, to which I always reply, "we don't pay enough, so they can get a better deal somewhere else easily"
She always replies, "well, we don't want to find people who are only in it for the money"
This shit makes me want to pull my fucking hair out. THATS THE WHOLE OSTENSIBLE POINT OF THIS GODDAMN SYSTEM YOU FORCED US ALL IN! That’s the “freedom of choice” shit they’re always banging on about. Ofc it only ever fucking applies to the bosses of course, us grunts are supposed to eat shit with a smile.
The last time I received a raise was 2017 and it was like 2% cost of living raise. I've been let go from about 5 companies since then. I've never been promoted either.
From all of these companies I've worked at over the last decade I have lists of professional references and people who would love to work with me again.
I have been loyal to a fault and have been punished for it.
Yup, companies are never loyal to you. They'll cut you out as soon as a better arrangement presents itself
I thought it's cause inworknin kitchens and everyone is Bourdain brained where suddenly being asked what my goals are as a line cook at a new job was a thing but I guess it's more ancient. I don't have to deal with that crap cause my skills speak for themselves but other people try to play this bullshit game instead of being food mercenaries
Well we dont want to find people who are only in it for the money.
What do you think the odds are that they're still looking for whoever they think can
produce the most valuework the hardest and not whoever they think is the most fun to be around?Bro, how does any employer complain about not getting good staff? Literally every job is flooded with hundreds of applications they're that spoiled for choice.
a job is just a job
You're telling me it's not supposed to be? I'm supposed to make it my entire personality and dedicate my life to it?No no, of course you are!! That's why so many people start conversations with new acquaintances by asking about it:
"So! What do you do for a living?"
subtexts may include:
- "Are you more important than me?"
- "Can I use your social influence to help me?"
- "Are you rich and generous and looking for a new cause?"
- "Can I safely disregard or perhaps even shit on you?"
For a lot of older people, it is. It's actually pretty sad. Some of them don't even know what to do with their free time once they retire. That's why so many go back to work.
Or they go back to work because their retirement doesn't pay enough to survive
Many such cases
Yeah strangely enough none of my grandparents who had decently sized pensions ever decided that retirement was too boring and that working was actually the thing they liked. Somehow they all found other ways to keep themselves occupied either gardening, helping with grandchildren, traveling the world or just reading a whole lot.
More young people are saying the same thing: Salary and career growth are the most important things about a job
All your fucking life in school they hammer into your head that the benefits of capitalism is exactly that shit and then you actually go into the job force and all of sudden it’s like “oh and also you have to pretend to do it for the pure fucking love of making your boss money and tongue my asshole or else I can’t cum” foh
If I ever get my hands on a job, I'd love to randomly apply and just play games with the hiring manager.
Offer to join up if they offer higher salary and when they refuse, lecture them that money isn't everything, and that the spirit of capitalism is defeated when employers are all buddy-buddy instead of competing.
Translation: "Now that millennials are full adults we can't blame the shortcomings of the system on them being young and rebellious. Time to move on to the next youngest generation."
If collapse hasn't changed the status quo in ten years they'll be saying the same about Gen Alpha
Source: Am a burnt-out millennial that has heard all this gaslighting before. It's meant to make you work harder complain less and expect less. It worked on millennials until most of us burnt out, so they keep trying it with Zoomers too. You will be called lazy and entitled until you are 30 and then you will be disregarded and mocked as a failure.
Heard it for over a decade and haven't advanced an inch economically.
I'm technically GenZ (born in late 90's) and graduated university in 2021. I landed my first job in January 2022 and managed a grand total of 1 paycheck before the massive inflation happened when Europe decided to commit economic suicide. Felt REALLY good to finally join the workforce after being a struggling student and then immediaely getting it taken away from me, since inflation more or less eroded all the purchasing power I had gained by going from student to worker.
You're not Gen Z in my area... Gen Z for me is 2000-2020.... you're a late millenial to me....
Every other definition of Gen Z seems to be 1992-2015ish. But I will also add that every time one of the fossils in our department begins talking about Gen Z, I argue that since no one can come to any consistent definition of generations, just say "young people" if thats what you're using it to mean. In return, my boss seems to have expanded the definition to "anyone below 40".
no one can come to any consistent definition of generations
That's stupid, first, I thought a generation consisted of a 20 years, now it's 15 years (Gen X seems to have started and ended on 1965-1980).... then 17 years?
Gosh, this is stupid....
It's not a fixed amount of time, I'm pretty sure it has to do with how society progresses/changes and big events that influence how people develop. If it was just a fixed period it would be basically useless, because of not being sensitive to what can bring differences to generations
I'm pretty sure it has to do with how society progresses/changes and big events that influence how people develop. If it was just a fixed period it would be basically useless, because of not being sensitive to what can bring differences to generations
Generations are vibe-based?
Yes, the idea of a named generation is an entirely modern concept.
"How Gen Z is ruining the "lazy articles complaining about millennials" industry."
(GROUP OF PEOPLE WE ARBITRARILY MADE UP) sure does / doesn't like (ANY GIVEN SUBJECT)!
That'll be 80k a year for writing this shitty article over and over, thanks.
Critical support to AI replacing these overpaid opinion piece wankers writing absolute gobshite
Millennials, is this true?
Show
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/millennials-gen-z-boomers-working-hours-compared-b2484624.html
Because we were called lazy and threatened with homelessness if we faltered sometimes even when we didn't falter.
We didn't "become" like this, it was forced upon us.
Can't wait for the media to try and turn us against the younger generations to distract us from the real culprit (capitalism). "Oooh look, Zoomers don't work as hard as you, doesn't that make you mad?"
No, fuck you. I won't fall for it when you were saying the exact same shit about us 10 years ago. I'm not about to make the same mistake Boomers and Gen X did and blame everything on the younger generations. It's pathetic to pick on people younger and less powerful than you. Something I wish more older people understood when Millennials were growing up. We're anxious wrecks because we were bullied. I refuse to continue that cycle.
The problem isn't young people, or even old people, the problem is the fucking rich assholes that feed us this bullshit to keep us under their thumb.
The author doesn’t blame any of the generations in the article. She says that millennials are workaholics because they graduated during the 2008 crash and were forced to go “above and beyond” to keep a basic job
So, instead of bemoaning Gen Z’s lack of work ethic, perhaps we should be praising them – and trying to emulate their more balanced approach. As Fisher puts it: “Ignore the boss’s after-hours WhatsApp message and continue your evening, please!”
Ah, my bad. My rant was more aimed at general news that I've seen in the past and not that article in particular.
So, instead of bemoaning Gen Z’s lack of work ethic, perhaps we should be praising them – and trying to emulate their more balanced approach. As Fisher puts it: “Ignore the boss’s after-hours WhatsApp message and continue your evening, please!”
Good advice, but I have lost minimum wage jobs when I first entered the workforce during the late 2000s and early 2010s for refusing to work unpaid overtime. You get called into the office and they give you the "We really need you to prove you want this job by not refusing overtime. Also you're expected to come in early. (also unpaid)" I think thats how we got the reputation for being job hoppers, because we kept searching for jobs that didn't do shady shit until we realized that they're all like that.
It’s ironic that I grew up conservative and anti communist, but just seeing the pointless suffering my family had to go through working brutal blue collar jobs just to support us, having every student pool in for school supplies because the teacher was broke and so was the school and also many individual student, and eventually working manual labor myself for a few years made me more communist and despise loyalty to the fuckers who cause this.
Unironically, if the US was one of those socdem European countries that liberals love so much while ignoring its exploitation of the global south, I would’ve grown into a casual liberal who supported his country and company. I suppose I have to thank the Great Satan for helping me realize the woes of our world and not falling victim to being comfortable with exploitation.
Their greed and stupidity is their greatest weakness. They can't help but go full fash, and as history shows, fascism always leads to collapse. It is inevitable.
I.hsve a modicum of power at work now and guess what, it's super fuckimg easy to be fair with it. It's really really easy to not be an prick, my being g given power effectively means everything that's under my control trol is now democratized. It's that fuckk easy
Thank you millennials for working non-1.5x overtime for no reason so I can go home after 8 hours
You won't catch this millennial working any job that doesn't pay 1.5x for overtime.
perhaps gen z is in fact more miserable than millennials. who can say
This was supposwd to be Gen X. We were the "Whatever" generation. And now we're middle managers. It's lile we've given up everything we didn't believe in.
It's called people aren't falling for some jackass company that thinks splurging on peripheral benefits, shit like ping pong tables, instead of fucking PAYING PEOPLE MORE, is the right move
Fuck would I bust my ass for? So some stupid ass c suite motherfucker that hasn't worked a day in his life can jack himself off about how well he 'motivated people'? So I can have my boss tell me "great job" now and "we can only give a 3.5% raise" later? When 3% is apparently what I'd get if I were too stupid to breathe without written instructions?
I get the same pay if I achieve what's needed or if I work 60 hours a week fixing other people's shit, and an extra .5 to 1 percent raise ain't good enough, fuckstick
I'll never forget being taken to the office at the grocery store and told I wasn't stocking the shelves good enough to get a $0.25 raise, and they would only give me an extra dime per hour. I was barely above minimum wage. And these people said we were a family which is why we didn't need a union. Literally nickel and diming me, telling me to my face that my work didn't deserve like a dollar a shift more than they would do by default.
Can't pay my rent in bean bag chairs from the rec room so fuck off, Mr boss man.
The bourgeoisie don't seem to understand that most of workers salaries goes on basic necessities
don't worry, we don't just care about how much a company pays! we also care about how easy it is to commit time theft (and/or real theft) against them
Later
""sigh No gen Z. I'm NOT hiring. You know I'm very picky. I would rather die than see you work even if I will complain that your generation is lazy later."
