My favourite example of this is when Bradley Whitford (Josh Lyman West Wing) didn't realise the "I would vote for Obama 3 times" in Get Out was a joke aimed at shit libs
Even better- Jordan Peele put that in the script because Whitford said it to him unironically
Reminds me of the discussion about how much of the Starship Troopers cast were aware of the irony in their roles
Hunger Games has imagery of humble and stolid country folk who make their living by their hands being oppressed by fancy and decadent city people. It's arguably coded as somewhat conservative-leaning, at least in terms of American culture war.
Well yeah, but also its a series where the working class kill each other for the entertainment of the rich, the villain is literally called capital, the revolution is co-opted by people obsessed with image and optics, and so on
No, I get that. But I'm saying that a Republican or a conservative can still easily watch Katniss and her friends fighting the evil Capital and be like "that's me!"
revolutionary movements that are meant to be likeable are usually coded in such ambiguous ways, with dog whistles both for radlibs and reactionaries to latch on to. for example, in early seasons of The Expanse, when Belters weren't yet clearly sorted into "Polish or Irish = libertarian and good" and "Latinx or Middle Eastern = racist and bad", they were simultaneously coded as IRA crust punks and redneck truckers, and also all kinds of other stuff, just as easily being read as inusrrectionist leftist or as rebel chuds.
Yeah. There's a ton of people who think Hunger Games is some sort of communist dystopia or at least that the whole thing is just broadly "anti-authoritarian".
It’s anti-imperialist it shows a core-periphery extraction and the displays of cruel violence sustaining it, it’s very heavy handed with it
It’s so heavy handed and spot on, but I really just wished it didn’t trip at the finish line.
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Coin’s proposal to reinstate the hunger games didn’t make any sense. It was obvious to me that her actions had to be worked backwards from the conclusion. She was always suspect, but we needed to learn why in order to show that performing a revolution just to reinstate the same systems of oppression is wrong. But it wasn’t clear that anyone else was any better or that this death wouldn’t simple destabilize the people further.
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It’s just showing imperialist extraction in a very simple and didactic way for teenagers. It’s true that rich empire core often has material decadence extracted from the periphery through brutal exploitation. The premise of the entire series is rested on the capital being so comically decadent to host a TV reality show where they make poor kids murder each other for fun.
not to mention the only reason the revolution is kicked off is because District North Korea literally has nukes and sends fucking UFOs to support them lmao
Actors in my experience are often some of the most ignorant people around.
I know quite a few, and so often they come from wealthier families who do well enough to be able to financially back them with rent, food, and acting class money until they make it.
That also doesn't include those who get where they are at due to familial connections.
There is nothing more pathetic than a never-trump republican, they're creatures that want the brutality of conservatism but wrapped up in a veneer of civil discourse, aspiring autocrats who want a pat of the head from the type of people who swear they would've voted for Obama three times
At least dumb motherfuckers like this :frothingfash: have an ethos
they’re creatures that want the brutality of conservatism but wrapped up in a veneer of civil discourse
I thought those were democrats
Democrats think Justice is brutality, while Conservatives think brutality is Justice, very subtle, kinda like Gork and Mork
Democrats think Justice is brutality, while Conservatives think brutality is Justice
Can I write this on some sort of blunt instrument to be deployed as necessary?
Some of them became democrats, the vast majority of never-trump republicans became freakish Qanon pilled reactionaries like a year after Trump was elected.
I thought Q was a Trump thing? Like wasn't it all about him being a m secret hero?
yes, that's what I mean. Conservatives who hated Trump all worshiped him a year later. They have no convictions.
For all her shit that interview where she says she drinks heavily because she knows some people despise her just for being alive was super fucked up to hear :deeper-sadness: :deeper-sadness:
Yeah she’s at least open about all this shit. There’s lots of famous republicans but they keep their mouth shut. She at least is open and seems to be getting better.
Almost no Americans take analogy and symbolism in popular media seriously. It's like pulling teeth trying to convince them the X-Men are a hamfisted allegory for minorities or even all the transphobic jokes in Friends are in fact transphobic.
It doesn't surprise me that the people making the popular media similarly don't see what they're making.
American education is absolutely fucking dogshit, that's why
I remember sitting in my senior year non AP English class (so where you put the future poors) and 90% of the class could BARELY get through or comprehend the first few chapters of 1984, it was seriously fucking depressing and I don't know if that's indicative of anything but a society scale failure to educate people
American education is absolutely fucking dogshit.
Literacy in the US could be a bit better...
According to the U.S. Department of Education, 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level.
my english teacher in high school made us read metamorphosis by kafka and half the class couldnt understand that it wasnt meant to be a funny story about a beetle
lol, to be fair I read it after high school on my own and all I knew for sure was that it was not funny.
can't comment on how common that is bc english isn't my first language, but German is and Kafka translates just extremely well to English. There's something about his style, his syntax n stuff, that just lends itself well to English translations. Also, Kafka became popular in the anglophone world long before he became popular in German-speaking countries due to his work being discovered and becoming popular post-mortem, when Hitler had just risen to power and Kafka's books were being banned due to him being Jewish and an absurdist author. So Kafka only became popular in postwar Germany, when his work was reintroduced from the English-speaking world, where he's made a massive cultural impact.
Fairly common to read at least a couple. We read Beowulf, journey to the west, tartuffe, and a bunch of greek tragedies like Antigone or oedipus.
To be fair most classes are called English and literature or something but yes translated books are very common
I know that this wasn't the main point of your post but it's going to kill me when Disney/MCU does X-Men and completely gut it of anti-racist/anti-homophobic metaphor and instead just make it into another action-comedy.
Or, or shit, when they keep the allegories but direct them all against state enemies by making all the anti-mutant factions be based out of Russia and China or something.
MagNATO.
The worst part? When I try to convince people the MCU X-men are using the guise of its former anti-bigotry stances to instead spread imperialism, I'll be accused of reading too far into silly action superhero movies and in fact they have no message beyond cool fight scenes.
Jennifer Lawrence has always been the physical embodiment of "just vibes"
Do u mean "stanned" or do you mean something cooler than that
Lathe, I don't often ask for things, but just this once let Maoist Landlord's typo be prophecy.
I mean she's probably earning a bazillion dollars from acting so she is one of the few people who should vote republican as opposed to millions of yanks who are voting for the bullies that steal their lunch money every day.
This is the thing I keep coming back to. Like, I hear Dems insist "You shouldn't vote for Republicans", but then I'm left with the question "Who else am I supposed to vote for?"
I think if I'm adapting a book for film, I'd want my lead actors to be able to understand the message at the very least.
