lately I've been interested in the conservative obsession with hating starbucks and found this

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    I wish my life was so good that I could spare the energy to pick the dumbest, pettiest bullshit like this to be upset about.

    • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      I'm fairly certain the lifes of people losing their shit about this are super fucking miserable and they mostly go pronounjak-rage over a print on a seasonal paper cup so they do not have to confront their actual problems.

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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          5 months ago

          Here’s footage of the research by the way https://youtu.be/Vlk45K0wgfU

          There was also a research article that found white people generally distrust all minorities while trusting Asian men the most, but only if the Asian men are fat.

        • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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          5 months ago

          That's interesting. What's that from? I feel like I'd heard that it didn't take much to develop empathy and overcome racist attitudes just by basically exposing people to the groups they fear more often in everyday life l, though I have no source on that. I wonder if physiological responses like those can be changed in the right conditions or if it'll always be that way.

          • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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            5 months ago

            Some people I know have by now spent about 30 years living in the same neighbourhoods as Muslim, African etc immigrants, they see them everywhere all the time and they're certainly not getting any less racist

            Maybe it makes sense in America where a lot of white people live on like a corn field in the middle of nowhere or something, but Europeans are massively racist and keep voting for more and more fascist politicians and they live side by side with immigrants in major cities

  • FumpyAer [any, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    Crying, pissing and shitting because the two hands holding on the holiday cup are the same size.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    I once worked with a chud, who absolutely loved to hate Starbucks. Then one day, he needed coffee, he just had to have some, and Starbucks was the only place there. Then, literally after that day, he drank Starbucks nearly every day and wouldn't stop talking about how much he loves Starbucks. It was bizarre.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      5 months ago

      I mean, I think we can all guess what the guy from this story's political views are

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  • FanonFan [comrade/them, any]
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    5 months ago

    Assuming this is recent it's just a marketing thing to get people to forget about bds. Outrage marketing has been the norm for a long time now

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Do companies actually make money from deliberate conservative outrage? They must since they keep doing it. The Bud light thing must be some outlier

      • FanonFan [comrade/them, any]
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        5 months ago

        Yeah, construct a narrative of Starbucks standing its ground in support of queer people, hoping that narrative supplants the growing public conception of a union-busting Israel-supporting corporation. By and large no news sites write articles to be informative, there's no such thing as investigative journalism anymore, if they're publishing something it's because someone paid them to or they have a material incentive themselves.

        It's all conjecture based on what I know about past mass marketing campaigns and a general vibe I get when I feel something's trying to manipulate me. But as awareness marketing became saturated, as insecurity marketing became saturated, corporations started leaning more heavily into identity formation. Which itself is becoming saturated, and I think socially we're experiencing the effects of that aspect of humanity getting enclosed and co-opted. The anti-woke shit seems at least partially like a runaway effect of it.

        Tbh the Bo Burnham social brand consultant sketch captures the vibe pretty well.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    5 months ago

    starbucks as a brand is so incredibly loaded with cultural-political symbolism in US culture, completely disproportionate to what they actually do and sell as a business (coffee with lots of syrup in).

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      (coffee with lots of syrup in).

      Not just coffee with lots of syrup, horribly burnt coffee that is less pleasant than just eating whole coffee beans, presumably to encourage people to pay extra for the syrup to hide the taste of them actively making the coffee wrong on purpose.

      • FumpyAer [any, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        If starbucks weren't on the BDS list I'd suggest trying some Starbucks reserve roasts someday. They're still horribly dark, but at least they have some character.

        But instead of that, literally any specialty coffee roaster will outdo them by simply not roasting past second or third crack...

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          5 months ago

          The thing is I'm not even picky about coffee. Like I've had gas station boxed coffee that wasn't good, but it wasn't Starbucks bad. In college I'd often buy a cup of coffee from an instant vending machine in the student lounge, and that wasn't good but it wasn't Starbucks bad. Now I buy the cheapest whole beans I can find on sale in bulk because I can't afford better and grind it myself, and it's not great but it's decent enough. It's been 20 years since I've actually spent money in a Starbucks, and the only time I've been since was when I had a Starbucks gift card that someone else won, and their coffee tastes like burnt cardboard or burnt popcorn in a way that's both horribly bland and actively unpleasant.

          • FumpyAer [any, comrade/them]
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            5 months ago

            When I lived near one, I would get coffee at Winco foods. Very good prices in bulk. They tend to have locations in California, Nevada, Idaho, Texas and a few other places.

            It's also a worker owned co-op 👍👍👍

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      5 months ago

      like i have to imagine it's a marketing win for them that a significant portion of the population is under the impression that sbux is a fancy coffee shop for haughty, vaguely effeminate and foreign elites and not just, people who want to get breakfast at a drive thru on their way to their office job.

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Game of Thrones gave us The Hand of the King

    Starbucks gave us the Hand of the Lesbian