• InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    Yeesh...

    If your interest is challenging slavery, you could make more material difference as a slave owner, surely, in that you could emancipate all your slaves whereas, as a slave, you could not emancipate yourself.

    • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      A deeply unserious comment from a deeply unserious person. Frederick Douglass should have a chat with them, and John Brown should have a few minutes alone with them.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      4 months ago

      Which is why there were so many people who bought slaves just to free them right?

    • @DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      4 months ago

      The dude who wrote this is 100% one of those guys who will defend those shitty harem anime where the main character "frees" a slave girl by buying her off of the slavers.

    • Wakmrow [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      I mean that was my first instinct. Yeah sure guys make me the slave owner, see how that turns out.

      "Sells" slaves buys arms and ammunition

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        Step 1: go to all the fancy slaver parties and debutante balls and memorize the layout of the plantations and how many exits the mansions have

        Step 2: make maps for yourself and your "slaves."

        Step 3: get really into pyromania

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      This only works ethically if you’re playing 5D chess and none of your slaves are actually slaves, but putting on a disguise and performance while you and the “house slaves” are actually gearing up in the mansion for a bloody rebellion and crushing the entire south.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    4 months ago

    I still remember in the 8th grade when my teacher told my entire class that if we were all slaves, I would probably be the only one to actually fight back

    This was probably because earlier that year, I wrote a paper about John Brown and how he was my hero because he was willing to do what was right regardless of the cost

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      I remember in 8th grade I was very capitalist and conservative, or so I thought. We were learning about the inequality behind the Olympics and at one point she asked the class to raise their hand if they would prefer that the “1%’s” wealth be redistributed so the poor suffer less. Only me and one other raised our hands lol. She said “congratulations. You two are socialists.” It’s lib as hell but still got me thinking about what I actually value vs. what I think I valued.

      She also happily - smiles and all - recounted a story where her professor said the US deserved 9/11 as it was happening, and she didn’t follow it up with telling us that her professor was wrong for saying it lol.

      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        4 months ago

        I remember in 8th grade I was very capitalist and conservative

        I remember when I was in 8th grade I was wondering how the animorphs gang was going to escape their next conundrum; and people here be like "I was a Randian libertarian" lol

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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          4 months ago

          To be fair I was barely in high school when Trump got elected so everything was suddenly getting politicized and before that Americans got complicit with 8 years of “boring” Obama, so no one really talked about politics.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      4 months ago

      That is a very weird thing to say unless I guess you're teaching a class of all white kids or you and the teacher are both black. Cause I'm thinking back to my school experience if a teacher said that they'd be treading in some dangerous ground.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    I thought she was some right-wing wacko rando (probably a libertarian) who would use the poll as "proof" of something insane. It turns out she has a Wikipedia page. She's an associate professor of philosophy at the University of Chicago.

    Agnes Callard

    Agnes Callard (née Gellen; born 1976) is an American philosopher and an associate professor of philosophy at the University of Chicago. Her primary areas of specialization are ancient philosophy and ethics. She is also noted for her popular writings and work on public philosophy.

    ---

    Edit

    A tweet reply

    @UChicago happy Black History Month! What the fuck is this?

  • LeZero [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    Cant I choose to be a slave owner killer?

    JB-shining-aggro

  • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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    4 months ago

    The remarkable thing about /r/cth is that it's been banned for years now but it's left such an impression that liberals still bitch and moan about it even off of Reddit.

  • TheSpectreOfGay [he/him, she/her]
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    4 months ago

    "would you like to be the oppressor or the oppressed?" with no other option is a really great question to ask, it doesnt have an obvious outcome at all

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    I think this isn't really the way it was intended, but that is the better option since being made a slaver gives you a better chance to free slaves (by immediately stopping being a slaver) rather than being a slave, where you'd be lucky to even free yourself. These fuckers surely just mean that you carry out the "duty" of whatever position you are placed in, though.

    John Brown's body lies a-mouldering in the grave

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      If the hypothetical was “you are suddenly transported back to chattel slavery times in the US as a slave. What do you do?” Most of these ghouls would say “I would try to kill my owner” no matter how ridiculous their hypothetical plan is

      But if you say “you are suddenly transported back as a slave owner. What do you do?” Then suddenly it’s all about civility and their creativity about rebellion is nonexistent. They don’t think they have a duty to fit the role because they would likely choose rebellion as a slave. They’re simply lazy and racist.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      I read one of her NYT columns about the importance of questioning your assumptions. She's not much of a thinker. Drat. I shouldn't have questioned my assumptions.

      you carry out the "duty"...

      I'm nearly 100% certain that's what she meant.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    What the hell kind of question is this? Like anyone's gonna answer ”yes, I'd like to be a slave please” if that's one of your only two options.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      Even in CHUD fantasies, their ideas have to be forced in order for them to hold any merit. They can never succeed on an even playing field.

      smuglord: "Ok, snowflake. Would you have you and the rest of your puny undesirables be allowed to be alive or have the apocalypse happen because your betters were denied their opportunity to run things well like they naturally do?"

      refuse-the-question: "I refuse the question

      smuglord: "Stupid moral[slur]. That's literally impossible. In this hypothetical, you either do whatever I want or else everyone dies. Your choice."

      refuse-the-question: "But sometimes we don't listen to you, and we're still alive."

      smuglord: "Uhhh.....well.....LOL I TROLLED YOU! U MAD BRO?"