• ScotPilgrimVsTheLibs [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Ironic, they go on about the evils of altruism but their ideology requires indoctrinating the masses into being altruistic for porky only, because "muh shareholder value".

      They want you to be a robot, and think that the more robot like you are the more "worthy" you are. Not that this will make any less of a difference between whether or not you should be allowed to live, as they want you to die to make room for the next meat drone...who should hurry up and die to make room for the NEXT meat drone, and so on.

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    2 years ago

    showing love and affection for your children is perhaps the most basic good act there is. Hell is all that awaits those who fail to do so.

  • CyberMao [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    10 years later…

    Don’t Call Your Parents. Seriously.

    I have two parents over 50 who don’t expect—or even want—to talk to me. It took some practice, but over time, we’ve all learned we’re better off doing our own thing.

    • CyberMao [it/its]
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      2 years ago

      What the fuck. They’re supposed to take you aside and talk to you privately

      • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        As much as CPS and social workers are necessary, many of them perpetuate the problems they're supposed to solve. Arguably it's for systemic reasons.

        • CyberMao [it/its]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, I don’t know a single person who’s been through foster care who doesn’t have horror stories

          • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            I was in foster care for a few months as a 3 year old. It was unpleasant enough that I still have several memories about it. But in hindsight it really wasn't that bad. Mostly just problems associated with having too many kids of too many different ages split between not enough caretakers.

            • CyberMao [it/its]
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              Yeah, even if everyone is well-meaning and does their best, a lot of trauma tends to come out of it. I’m sorry you have to deal with that

      • Glass [he/him,they/them]
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        2 years ago

        shit, play is important for all animals, especially primates. People who have been conditioned otherwise, and believe their stultedness to be the mark of true wisdom and maturity, make me sad.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    Thinking about how by a pretty young age I didn't want my parents involved in any of my imagination games (legos, lincoln logs, the beanie baby wars) cause I'd get shamed for any stories or plots or concepts that they viewed as weird or abnormal.

    If your young kids don't want to play with you then maybe think about how you might be responsible for that. And if you are invited into or allowed to take part in unstructured games, yes-and their ideas instead of trying to take control.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        2 years ago

        Pretty much exactly what it sounds like lol, id separate my beanie babies into factions and have them engage in guerilla warfare. Bears were bourgeois. My brother's toy dump truck was used for troop transport. I don't really remember much else lol

        • Leper_Messiah [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Kid you sounds extremely cool and i would subscribe to her Telegram to follow the news from the Beanie Baby War frontlines

        • hi_communism_im_dad [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Haha! It's just not a very warlike toy. I subjected army men to the horrors of war, but beanie babies is much funnier.

          • crime [she/her, any]
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            2 years ago

            Haha yeah it was a real improvise, adapt, overcome strategy for having a hard time getting too many toys considered to be "boys toys" lmao, but it worked out well lol

        • Quimby [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          that's dope af. my brother and I made like an entire beanie baby / stuffed animal extended universe. that and legos were definitely our two main "imagination toys" for a while.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Mine were good for that. When I was drawing (which I can now do quite well) they just got me art supplies, doing Lego sets and playing video games we'd get big sets and do em as a project together and even now I'm 30 and staying with them until.the end of the month when an apartment is opening up for me and we play Mario kart together pretty much every night

  • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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    I think the worst thing was my parents deciding to have another kid to play with me. It just meant I had to babysit and take care of a crying child and watch him get attention.

    I was very introverted growing up so having to look after a younger sibling meant I couldn't play in my own imaginary world.

    Like why even have kids if you're not going to play with them.

      • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Two years. He was fine, just not fun when you're not allowed to have friends your own age.

          • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Thanks, comrade. It's not a big difference now, but at 8 and 6, you're in totally different worlds.

            But that's the cool thing about adulthood. Even if you didn't have the boundaries you liked as a kid, you can better control them as an adult.

      • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I think now that I can set boundaries, we can be friends now, but I don't enjoy him when my parents are present. We all kinda go back into old habits.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    2 years ago

    idk it's good to play with your kids, but also it's important to step back a bit and let them figure stuff out on their own, as long as they know how to come back to you if they need something they can't do for themselves

    • iwasloggedout [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Nah you gotta let them spend 8 hrs getting hungrier while not figuring out how a can opener works

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah I don't think anyone here is advocating for just monopolizing your own kids life but like, this article sure isn't talking about that

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        2 years ago

        idk i'm reading it and

        I can’t say that my approach is right for everyone. I know that it resonates for me in part because of how I was raised. I have no memories of my parents playing with me. I can remember reading together and their swimming with me in the ocean, but they weren’t involved in the fashion shows I filmed with my sisters, and they didn’t help me make my magazine, Kid Stuff, either. Not once did they dine at my fictional restaurant.
        [...]
        When my kids and I stop doing our own things and come together, it’s because we want to. The activities we do together offer all of us pleasure; we opt in and because of this, we actually have fun. I may not play, but I’m goofy and affectionate, and I love to talk about feelings. I love to teach too: how to count, how to read, how to make guacamole.

        Yeah that's true to my childhood at least. I kind of assumed that's how most millennials grew up. Adults had their adult stuff that they had to do and as long as I didn't get into a fight with my brother I pretty much expected my parents to stay out of my stuff. It's not like there wasn't intimacy or joy, they just didn't play.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          yeah the parent doesn't have to act like one of the children to spend quality time with them and frankly I don't think children want them to either

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          they just didn’t play

          I mean, I can see this point of view, but some of my best memories as a kid are playing board games with my mom. She left me alone a lot but she also would shoot BB guns with me, go bike riding, stuff like that. There's definitely a place for "playing" with kids but I think that maybe the article title implies and what the author is talking about are two different things.

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Kids should play with kids and if they get used to adults stepping down to their level and joining a kids' game they could end up seeking connection more with adult supervisors than with their peers... Is what I hope the point of this article is.

    • ToastGhost [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      i think its just a "damn i hate my children and wife" boomer post