Where I live, even if it's been misogynistically loaded by :reddit-logo: and related communities, "Karens" are very real, both in my neighborhood and where I go to get groceries. They argue, a lot, and are especially confrontational and condescending with employees. They will fight and demand a manager over a difference in cents or a matter of months on an expired coupon, and snap their fingers to get people's attention, lick fingers when handling their money as a performative thing they learned from TV, and it isn't just a women thing. For lack of an agreed-upon term, "Henrys" are roughly the same thing but dress like 55+ year old children, wear flip-flops and cargo shorts and have goatees to go with their thumb heads, and have more direct threats of violence toward employees for the same setbacks.
The other stereotype involves self-described libertarians. I knew dozens, in fact scores, during college, and many never grew out of it. Speaking of growing up, almost every single one of them at some point argued with me, usually unprompted, that age of consent laws are "a social construct" and that "a lot of teenagers, and even children" (their words not mine :desolate: ) "are easily as logical and capable of consent as adults." Lots of them cited how child marriage is common and normal or even that they had ancestors that had child marriages and dared me to say their ancestors were pedophiles (in one case, I did dare say that. Yes, there was a fight). They didn't agree on everything but their desire to violate teenagers was a consistent trait. :epstein:
Leftists are pathologically sad and have substance abuse issues :tequila-sunset:
ur right part of my pathological sadness is being self conscious lmao
substance abuse issues
most drugs are banned from my country and fking alcohol just makes me wanna shit and feel warm
i am very sad tho
Really cuz alcohol makes me feel warm, sometimes after a night of drinking I’ll just jump in a cold shower.
Not me, I'm happy and I can stop drinking this Sauturne any time I want.
Non-leftists just have optimism bias.
Now pour me some more wine so i can deal with reality.
Techbros truly are awful to spend any amount of time with. Not just any guy that’s into tech, I’m talking about a specific kind of guy who loves startup culture, thinks everyone should be working 72+ hour weeks for the hustlegrind, and claims to be socially progressive while being blind to his own sexism. Funny thing is, all the ones I’ve interacted with have been startlingly incompetent.
Sorta ties in with the “live your life with the confidence of a mediocre white guy” stereotype. I’ve worked with a lot of white guys, and the egotistical ones usually are pretty mediocre. The competent ones are usually humble and kind.
The techbros I've known (and I've known a lot because of the area I went to college in) were almost always "pro sex" and "sexually open minded" as their own descriptors, but what that meant was "wants to have sex and specifically do BDSM things and wants women to make out in front of him but doesn't want to see any icky gay stuff or for that matter receive anything he wants to dish out."
That tracks with their cult leaders' preoccupation with drugging and hobbyist mind control experiments on "pets."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/brotopia-silicon-valley-secretive-orgiastic-inner-sanctum
I enjoyed it but it wasn't fucked up enough for my ex, or something.
So I showed her what's what by accelerating my alcoholism and being sad.
Guy who calls himself "sex positive" to mean "horny and doesn't respect boundaries" is something I've seen entirely too many times
"Jim is a lazy worker. I can spend all day working on something that he'll just wrap up in an hour."
i've heard that among engineers, it's generally assumed that you fucked up somehow if you're working overtime.
I live in the bay area and have ran into a lot of them. They love to talk about investing, 401ks, Roth IRAs and stock stuff. It's like half their personality is about money
Probably right lol, I don't meet too many rich people but I'd say tech workers are like the vast majority of rich people I meet here so I easily conflated the two I guess haha
Sorta ties in with the “live your life with the confidence of a mediocre white guy” stereotype... The competent ones are usually humble and kind.
Damn, I'm none of these things. :felix-trash:
Karens are, sadly, a thing. I really don't know what to do when some of my friends start to have a Karen moment, except try to gently defuse the situation. I have a theory it's a response to the economic and social precarity of middle-aged women in the middle classes, related to the "Social Invisibility" many older women experience in all classes. There are two responses for middle-class women who find this intolerable.
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Wear a lot of purple and be charmingly eccentric (I fully support this option)
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Be a Karen, act in all the ways people find are most annoying in masculine-coded people, but without the social hierarchy giving you the cred to pull it off.
And I get it, the process of "Femininity isn't working anymore, I'll try treating people how every 45-Year old Male Bank Manager has treated me all my life" but it's a horrible thing to behold and it doesn't make them not an asshole.
This is extremely, insightfully on point. And I absolutely support a woman's right to wear a lot of purple and get a little nutty with it. Those are some of my favourite people. In fact one gave me a recipe the other day because she saw I was picking wild garlic and when I told her thanks she said it was even better when made with "that weed butter" before laughing to herself as she walked off. I stan our purple queens.
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When I worked in retail and also food stuff if a white woman over say 45 or so can't find or get what they want there is an extremely high chance there going to make a scene and complain heavily to me, co-workers and managers. They love to say, "I can't believe you guys don't have _____! Can you check the back? I came all the way from one city over and it was here yesterday!" So yeah, I think the Karen stereotype is fuckin spot on lol
The whole thing about "well I'll just take my business elsewhere" is just the delusion that through individual market actions we can make our voice heard. Yeah, you'll sure show them never going to that chipotle again. That billion dollar conglomerate controlled by business consultants in New York will never mess with you again.
Lol it's true definitely had people claim they lost a customer and they'd be back later that week. It's so wild how people think regular employees care they're not going to come back. If anything we celebrate this shit, if we're out of something and you're mad about it to a regular employee then we don't like you lol. We have no control over supply shit, go away
It's true. I'm queer as fuck and most of my health problems might be sitting-weird-related at this point. I can't stop.
tries to shift posture at office desk to something besides lying sideways on a diwan and balancing a bunch of grapes over her mouth, fails miserably
couldn't be me, hahaha
I’ve also known a lot of women who just sit weird. Like my gf will find the ODDEST places to sit. They’ll be a comfy chair totally sitting right there empty and she’ll be like “nah I’m good squeezing myself between this pillar and concrete wall half upside down”.
Hustle/grind corporate climber people definitely exist and it's the most pathetic thing. Incredibly clear that they have no other purpose in life.
Other pathetic people include non-western libs who are so incredibly internally colonized. Fellate the west while looking down on their own cultures and people because they're not lib/western enough. So thoroughly immersed in lib ideology that they view regional politics through a heavily americanized lens without regard for local differences and conditions and act smug and superior throughout it all (they then get shocked when they are inevitably proven wrong)
im almost envious. we spend so much of our life working, at least they get something out of it
Telephone poles too. Once a dog marks them, they're marked for life
I will not stand for Youngster Ben erasure, and yes I did know which youngster that was off the top of my head, no I am not ok
Agreed. I'm not above that either. I brought it up as part of a look that contrasts with their "the wife" Karen counterparts and does look kind of comical on posturing blustering 55+ thumblike white men.
I'm not against sunglasses either and in fact I highly recommend them where I live but specific brands and looks for them are common on Karens (big brown lens ones) and Henrys (polarized wraparound tacticool ones).
The wraparound glasses pretty much guarantee they're uploading political rants from the front seat of their truck to FB.
Lots of laughing-while-crying emojis about how triggered their snowflake kids are by their "research" then a followup rant about how their kids won't call them anymore. :grillman:
Yeah sunglasses are key in my neck of the woods too.
https://www.warbyparker.com/sunglasses/men/fletcher/antique-shale-fade
These are the ones I use (I have prescription lenses), I like the chunky plastic a lot.
I'd love to get a pair of the dirt cheap looking They Live glasses tho, if any comrades have links/suggestions. They are :zizek-ok:
As an obstensively Jewish-ish person...
"How do you know you've met an Israeli Jew? Because they're the rudest, most narcissistic, self-obsessed, elitest, condescending assholes you've ever met in your life, and they don't care if you feel that way cus they think they're God's Chosen Children and we're not." -- My non-Israeli Jewish parents.
And based on my personal experiences with the dozens of Israeli Jews they worked with and had to talk to regularly outside of work, I have yet to meet one who wasn't an ass to say the least.
Most of the ones we knew became Scientologists in the 90's. Go figure. I guess the promise of literal superhuman powers was more appealing than just "I'm God's favorite kind of white person."
Weird question: can you get the special Israel trip for special boys and girls if you aren't of Israeli ancestry? I always thought that was open to all Jewish people, but I'm just now realizing that might not be the case in a politically white ethnostate?
It's open to all Jewish Americans under a certain age if you get a Rabbi to sign off on it. The Birthright trips are designed so you never get anywhere near Gaza or the West Bank, a bunch of 20-something IDF girls will flirt with you and insist you're smart for your age, and then you'll be sat in a conference room and lectured by right-wing ghouls about how you need to vote Republican when you get back home.
Totally agree as a Jew. Jews are totally 50/50. Loads of them are the chillest people I've ever met, generally have a good stern but relaxed demeanour, lots of confidence and usually quite well read.
The other half? Good god. I pray you never find yourself stuck with one for an extended period of time.
I’ve met two Israeli Jews in my life. One was a chill lesbian; the other was the most unbearable dude ever; both were anti-Israel. My feelings toward the latter might have been colored by my own liberalism at the time. He had actually gone to prison rather than join the IDF and I think he just didn’t want to waste his time with me. He also stole the girl I was interested in and they were together for years. So actually he was pretty based.
The real challenge is meeting a Jewish boomer (aside from Finklestein) who won’t say that Israel has a right to exist.
Palestinian-American libs also exist.
What is the deal with white people who spend years obsessing over Palestine and nothing else?
- neckbeard programmers, usually incels, usually libertarian
- finance bros partying a lot
Construction related
Electricians are anal retentive and don't clean up their fucking wire
Older plumbers/pipefitters are broken both on the outside and on the inside. Absolutely ravaged by time and their job.
Younger plumbers are basically all dude bro white dudes who party every night but somehow can manage to show up for work
Steel stud framers are always trying to act hard as fuck but are usually just not that smart.
Drywallers are foreign workers being exploited by their employers more than most and are on piece work pay so don't give half a fuck about anything but getting pieces of drywall on.
If a mechanical Insulator works more than a 6 hour day without like 7 breaks they had a rough shift
Construction general labour is usually being lied to, working under a temp agency, or being grossly underpaid. Always talk to any construction labourers you meet about their rights and any job opportunities you know about in a different trade.
Damn how do i become a mechanical insulator?
Also sounds about right which is why construction and building trades have always seemed like a bad idea to me. But i could always see myself as a plumber. I like it, but i am sure i can’t deal with the co-workers/bosses.
Damn how do i become a mechanical insulator?
Look for your local "heat and frost insulators" union. It's a fairly niche gig and you have to be willing to breathe in fibreglass all day but at least here there's a ton of demand for us
As a lot of the electrical engineers I work with are just electricians with more schooling, I agree. Also, I will add younger welders == younger plumbers.
goatees to go with their thumb heads
ah the classic Achewood bloatee
California liberals are as insufferable as you would think. A friend recently got a job in Wyoming and my San Francisco liberal friend remarked “their roads are falling apart because no income tax.” As if San Francisco doesn’t have open air drug markets and will not take care of their huge homeless population.
Blue collar union tradesmen don’t have a filter for bad or good. Sometimes they’ll say some reactionary shit, other times they’ll say “I HATE Republicans” right in front of republicans.
Every time. I've met precisely 1 nice white South African, and they were an ML who did a bunch of [Redacted] shit during the late 70s.
Woah, it looks like it's been mostly scrubbed from YouTube.
Here it is in it's original context and sketch on Dailymotion.
One nice white South African I knew was pretty old but also pretty progressive, might have been a commie, I’m not sure.
The other was not that bright but nice I guess. We suspected that English was his second language and that his first was Afrikaans. He was an ESL professor in Asia and spent all his office time on Facebook. Everyone could see in our open office but he didn’t care.
I loved every Black South African I met. Nicest people ever. So warm and welcoming.
An Indian South African matron once. asked me if I was interested in older women.
My experiences were preselected for wealth & whiteness I think, they all came over through the mines . Most all white australians I knew in the mix were surprised at their rigidity toward gender roles & 'tradition', even in the 00-10s.
Had a friend who had come over as a kid whom I loved, could never tell whether to believe some of their stories or not lol
