It's finally happening, you hogs. Time to get your slop. :Hoggers:

  • JohnBrownsBussy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The next generation of graphics cards is set to drop at the end of this year, so putting your purchase off still might be a good idea, either to get a more significant upgrade or to save even more on current-gen/last-gen hardware.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      True, but this mindset is why I've been stuck on a GTX 780 for years lol. I was going to buy the 20xx series, but with the 30xx around, the corner, I thought I should just wait. Bad decision. Not only were 30xx unobtainable, but so we're 20xx.

      You're really stuck speculating on the whims of the market at the end of the day to assume that the 40xx series/RDNA3 aren't going to be plagued with the exact same supply issues as the 30xx series though I have no idea what it'll be like to launch expensive consumer goods in a recession.

      • JohnBrownsBussy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I generally buy AMD so I'm just waiting to see if the next gen Raedon cards have decent ray tracing.

        • invo_rt [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Totally fair. I emulate a lot and some emulators play most nicely with Nvidia so it's been my go to for a while. I'm not sure about the current state of things with Vulkan being more prominent now, but Nvidia had been blowing AMD out of the water with OpenGL support on Windows which is what most emulation uses.

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          2 years ago

          Honestly you just need to bite the bullet eventually, pretty much no game being put out in Current Year can actually max the GPUs also being put out in Current Year

          Then there's Kenshi, a game released in 2013 that is to GPUs and SSDs what Dwarf Fortress is to CPUs.

          There's also AAA games like Hunt Showdown with pisspoor optimization that can't get 60 FPS@4K with medium-high settings on hardware that came out 2 years after launch.

          • Farman [any]
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            2 years ago

            Not really; i have a 1060 and can run kenshi fine interestingly it is the cpu that i have to underclock; it runs prime stable for hours but somehow crashes in kenshi after 20 min. The gpu utilization is quite low and i get fin fps.

            • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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              2 years ago

              Weird, my graphics card is constantly at 90+% and there's still 10 second+ load times when characters are moving, over a minute if I'm loading into the swamp.

              • Farman [any]
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                2 years ago

                The loading times seem like a hardrive issue i used to have those a few years ago until my hardrive died and i got a solid state one. But it is wierd that you get such a high gpu usage. Are you playing in 2k maybe?

                • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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                  2 years ago

                  The loading times seem like a hardrive issue

                  You'd think, but it's on a PCI 4 SSD, and the task manager rarely shows disk usage when the game starts chugging or loading in new areas after changing view.

                  it is wierd that you get such a high gpu usage. Are you playing in 2k maybe?

                  4K

                  • Farman [any]
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                    2 years ago

                    4k is a lot of pixels, i cant imagine you can run many games in there at 60fps even with a 3090.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah the one thing a new card would be good for is streaming or game recording. I can play a lot of games at max, but when I have the OBS replay buffer on for my tiktok videos, it knocks off like 30-80FPS

      • bananon [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        My plan is to wait for the last generation of stuff that will still all work together with my motherboard. I’ve got an x570, so I’ll wait until AM5 comes out and then buy the best AM4 chip.

      • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        2 years ago

        Not only were 30xx unobtainable, but so we’re 20xx.

        They weren't totally unobtainable, you could still camp out a discord and gamble once every couple weeks for a ~1/3 shot at a 3070/3060, or camp out a hardware center for a 3080.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The only reliable way to get a 30XX was bundled with a whole new PC build. That was actually pretty easy to do.

    • zan [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Yea seriously the fact prices on GPUs that launched 2-3 years ago only finally dropped below MSRP is more a testament to this cycle being super drawn out by the shortages than anything.

      Every other generation of GPU usually saw sub-msrp prices within half a year lol.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Tag me in when you notice some good deals comrade, my system's long in need of some hardware upgrades!

    • DonaldJBrandon [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I feel like given the past two years that's a massive gamble. The 30 series cards are going to be way more than enough for pretty much anyone and they're actually at reasonable prices at the moment

    • Grebgreb [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      True but the 5900x is already $100 off and the 6700 is actually affordable now :stalin-stressed:

  • AlyxMS [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Bought my GPU at 160% MSRP last october :cri:

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, a friend did similar and that's what I said, plus think about how much enjoyment it's given you over the last 8 months were you wouldn't have had it otherwise.

      • AlyxMS [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Bought it for Cyberpunk and Battlefield 2042

        :kitty-cri-screm:

        Still I don't regret it much(much less than me buying a 11th gen CPU and high end Z590 not long before 12th gen launch). Can't imagine doing video editing with the integrated graphics during the 2.5 months lock down.

  • space_comrade [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    God fucking damnit I just paid out the ass for a new GPU a few months ago.

    Fuck crypto bros and the market economy in general.

  • Sushi_Desires
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    2 years ago

    I've been wanting to upgrade since right around the time prices really started to spiral out of control, what do you thin is the best bang for the buck? 3070?

    Would I be critically bottlenecked at the Nvidia 3070 level by my Ryzen 3600?

    edit hmmm maybe it would also be worth to wait and see the performance of the 40XX series..

    edit: thanks everyone for the replies!

    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I'm still holding out on getting a new GPU, even tho I have a new PC with i7-12700, but an old GPU. 40xx series and RDNA3 should be out by early winter.

      Would I be critically bottlenecked at the Nvidia 3070 level by my Ryzen 3600?

      Yes, if you want high FPS. Like you will lose at least 25% if you want to play CS:GO at 1440p. If you want to play games at normal FPS (around ~100), then not really.

      • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        What would you recommend to go with a 3600? I'm using an RX580 at the moment, which is pretty good tbf, but which can't really keep up with the most modern games.

        • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There is no GPU that "goes" with 3600. You should just know that buying a good GPU with Ryzen 3600 means that you are leaving lots of performance on the table when it comes to (high-FPS) games that aren't demanding on the GPU and some (around 10%) performance on the table when it comes to new, demanding games.

          The good thing about Ryzen is that you can almost certainly (depending on the motherboard) upgrade to 5800X3D later and that CPU won't bottleneck even an RTX3090.

          I'd say go for 3060 Ti now, or wait for the 40xx series. Combination of cryptocrash and new GPUs should be great for the market, I hope!

    • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      I got a 3070@$500 in 2020, it gives 60+ FPS@4K for most games, but the settings have to be turned down for poorly optimized games.

      Would have preferred a 3080 if I could have gotten it at MSRP.

      Prices will probably dip when they announce the next gen specs so I'd at least wait for that.

    • HntrKllr [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Depends on the resolution if you're at 1080p yeah maybe it'll bottleneck your 3600, on a per game basis, but if you're at 4k or 1440p you're more likely to hit GPU bottleneck

  • Parzivus [any]
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    2 years ago

    Still rocking a 1060 and want to upgrade :sicko-blur:
    No money :kitty-cri:

      • Parzivus [any]
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        2 years ago

        It really isn't, and it almost feels like a waste to upgrade since 95% of the time I'm either playing indie games, old games, or emulating. It's just 6 years old and I'm hoping it doesn't randomly die anytime soon

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Are there any good resources to keep track of PC part prices by SKU or do you have to just keep searching over and over

  • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Hey, this might distract the machine learning people from how cool the new Apple M1s are for a while!

  • Ursus_Hexagonus [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Where I live they still want over $1000 for a Radeon 6800XT, dunno what's up with that

    • DonaldJBrandon [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      If you're in the US, r/hardwareswap has crazy deals right now. I saw a 3070ti going for around 500. Mid tier cards are going for like 200 at the moment. It's nutty

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Shit just when I'm saving up for something else