https://nitter.net/SawyerHackett/status/1539405926905569284?t=w9ZUIX9ZA5-fKGAowLAEqQ&s=19

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I am becoming more and more convinced every day that this was a gladio-style attack. It genuinely seems like the cops were there to protect the shooter, or that the cops did most of the shooting themselves.

      • MikeHockempalz [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        surely there’s at least one who would’ve been disgusted enough to anonymously report it

        :doubt:

      • D61 [any]
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        2 years ago

        If you realized what you were seeing, you'd have to consider if telling the truth would be worth the lives (and horrible deaths) of your entire family.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I mean blue wall of silence and all but surely there’s at least one who would’ve been disgusted enough to anonymously report it.

        How long did it take for the truth about gladio to come out?

        • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          What even is a Gladio now? I keep hearing about it on this website but I'm still not quite sure what it is

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

            After WW2 the CIA and NATO set up armed cells of fascist insurgents that would fight against a “possible invasion by Warsaw countries.” These groups performed tons of awful terrorist attacks and killed a lot of civilians, and tried to blame a lot of them on left wing groups.

            Technically Gladio was only the name for the ones in Italy, but it’s generally used to refer to the whole system in Europe

    • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Hey now, those cops had to protect the shooters rights. What’re you, some freedom hating commie?

    • WindowSicko [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      That's my new conspiracy theory, that cops empathize more Mass Murderers, and will allow them to do whatever they want before peacefully taking them into custody if they don't off themselves first.

      Like that guy that took out a mass shooter and the cops executed or how the Uvalde shooter was take out by some ICE pig.

      Either that or they shot a kid and needed to give the shooter time to kill more to cover up things up.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I think it's:

        1. Cops have no appetite for engaging someone who can shoot back.
        2. Cops get that mass shootings have always been spun as "I guess we need more money for cops." They can also fall back on this to justify their inaction or failure to prevent a shooting in the first place.
      • crime [she/her, any]
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        2 years ago

        There's also the creep who gunned down people in the Black church in Charleston that the cops took to Burger King after

        • FLAMING_AUBURN_LOCKS [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          so a lot of jails (local police station jails, the drunk tanks and the like, where people are kept before being sentenced to prison or taken to a larger jail) don’t have an on-site kitchen or a way of preparing food, and thankfully US law requires cops to not ignore people who mention being hungry. they need to pick you up something somewhere of you even allude to having not eaten recently. the downside of this is that the charleston church shooter gets a happy meal, but most of the time the point of the law is to make sure cops dont starve the usually poor and POC people they shove in the back of the car.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I mean okay but occams razor, what does a gladio attack at a texas school get for the CIA?

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, I don’t have a good answer for that. But I also don’t know how to explain their behavior otherwise. Why were they literally fighting to stop anyone from stopping the shooter? Why are they so reluctant to give up any shred of information? The cops didn’t even stop the shooter in the end, it was a separate unit from CBP.

        When have you ever seen cops detain and disarm another cop for doing something like “Wanting to protect his wife”? This is weird even for cops.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          When have you ever seen cops detain and disarm another cop for doing something like “Wanting to protect his wife”? This is weird even for cops

          maybe they just didn't want to get showed up

          • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            yeah, id say this. Everything they did was damage control after they fucked up the initial response maybe?

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              we think that they might have done something especially bad because who would be so inhuman as to stop a friend from rescuing their wife just so they don't look bad at work. The answer is cops

      • OutrageousHairdo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah it's easy as a leftist to conspiracybrain, but as a general rule you have to think about like, who benefits. The cops already have APCs, and the military gets everything it wants. The security state is as big as it gets, you don't need to convince people to make it bigger.

    • VeganVelveeta [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      This is fucked up. Let’s not go full alex jones with this bullshit. Pigs really are this terrible

    • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      if its gladio theyre doing a bad job, part of the strategy of tension is pinning violence on both sides but the yankee left aint killed anyone lately

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Some journalist will find clear evidence that the cops let the shooting happen, and will receive the Highest Honor in Journalism...

    • D61 [any]
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      2 years ago

      What honor is that? The one the Panama Papers lady got?

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's a reference to this one quote "the highest honor in journalism is being killed by the CIA."

        (Now granted, a journalist exposing this is more likely to be killed by the Uvalde PD than the CIA, but it's the same idea.)

        • D61 [any]
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          2 years ago

          Given that the Panama Papers lady was blown up by a car bomb, this checks out.

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Where’s that guy at now? How could he possibly go back to work knowing his coworkers are the reason his wife is dead and not just shoot everyone? That would realistically be the first thing on my to-do list afterwards

      • FuckingFerengi [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Vostok 1 but instead of Gagarin, Chris goes up and says, “I don’t see any corners up here”.

          • ssjmarx [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Police officers reported a stolen horse from a nearby ranch, and Dorner's body was burned beyond recognition

            I want to belieeeeeve!

      • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Not that there’s much use in comparing severity of trauma, but Dorner wasn’t even reacting to a familial death. Just losing his job (admittedly in retaliation for the racial discrimination investigation). I can’t imagine what he would’ve done if his wife was killed.

  • Soap_Owl [any]
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    2 years ago

    I am constantly astounded people don't invoke their 2nd ammendment rights dealing with the police

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      well the law only exists in it's enforcement if invoking the 2nd ammendment doesn't get them to not shoot you because they think you might not have a gun then there effectively is no 2nd ammendment

      • Soap_Owl [any]
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        2 years ago

        And yet. You can buy a hunting rifle at walmart and there cant be security cameras overlooking every doughnot shop in Uvalde.

        A lot of people depressed enough to do anything in that city for quite some time

          • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            I’m sure people do but most of them don’t have the military training that Dorner did so it doesn’t last long

              • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                Yeah that’s why the cops were shitting bricks and panicking. He was actually pretty good at tracking them down and doming them

                • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  Anderson Cooper received a package at his office containing a DVD that stated Dorner's case against the LAPD. The package also contained a bullet-riddled challenge coin issued by LAPD Chief William Bratton and a note inscribed with "1MOA" (one minute of angle), implying that the coin was shot at 100 yards (91 metres) at a grouping of 1 inch (2.5 centimetres), boasting of his accuracy with a rifle.

              • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Dorner was a United States Navy Reserve officer, commissioned in 2002. He commanded a security unit at the Naval Air Station Fallon (Fallon, Nevada), served with a Mobile Inshore Undersea Warfare Unit from June 2004 to February 2006, and was deployed to Bahrain with Coastal Riverine Group Two from November 2006 to April 2007.[17] He was honorably discharged from the Navy Reserve as a lieutenant on February 1, 2013.[18]

                In 2002, while a student at Undergraduate Pilot Training at Vance Air Force Base (Enid, Oklahoma), Dorner and a classmate found a bag containing nearly US$8,000 (equivalent to about $12,100 in 2021) that belonged to the nearby Enid Korean Church of Grace. The two handed the money to the police. When asked their motive, Dorner replied that, "The military stresses integrity. ... There was a couple of thousand dollars, and if people are willing to give that to a church, it must be pretty important to them." Dorner also stated his mother taught him honesty and integrity.[19] During his time as a reservist, Dorner received a Navy Rifle Marksmanship Ribbon and a Navy Pistol Shot Ribbon with expert device.[20][21]

          • Soap_Owl [any]
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            2 years ago

            I lived in the area at the time. It was absolutely wild. Ameria is fash but that was fash fash. The press reports on tv were absolutely nightmareish with cops bragging about kills. Cops were shooting people just in case. The news was begging people to not go out in cars that looked liek the ones dorner used. People were afraid to go out. Half from fear the cops would get toy. I was afraid to talk to anyone about my opinions. That was the future for real. For a while the ambulances where the cops died were totemic. Shit was wild.

    • D61 [any]
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      2 years ago

      I haven't watched "regular" network TV news in forever so I don't know if anybody outside of us internet weirdos is still thinking about this enough to care.

      • Soap_Owl [any]
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        2 years ago

        The people who lost their kids I imagine will have some fairly extreem emotional reactions

        • D61 [any]
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          2 years ago

          Locally, this makes sense, but nationally it still gets to be seen as an unfortunate thing that happened "over there to somebody else."

          • Soap_Owl [any]
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            2 years ago

            Every journy starts with the first step and all that

            • D61 [any]
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              2 years ago

              I hope their trauma radicalizes them towards progress instead of regress.

        • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Imagine being thrust into the national spotlight and not saying terrorism things to the reporter

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I get it, but you would think that the practice of no-knock raids specifically would have resulted in a lot more officers down as people defend themselves from what they have every reason to believe is a violent robbery.

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Not true, Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend was armed and rightfully defended himself against armed intruders, so they riddled the house with bullets.

        • Soap_Owl [any]
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          2 years ago

          It probably does and they don't reprt it. But also it probably doesn't because a dozen guys with heavy weapons and armor is pretty effective against someone who is poor and asleep

  • ImaProfessional1 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I think they feel like they are gaslighting everyone and their obfuscation is ne plus ultra. But it’s more akin to fucking Blue’s Clues, even that is generous. So high on their own supply whom ever is doing PR thinks that the Thin Blue Line ™ is adored by 90% of the population, and is magnitudes stronger than it actually is.

    Fuck, this is like a matryoshka doll of cowardice and ineptitude. People who are apt to view the world realistically and critically (umm, Hex-Sickos?) are just nodding along, "I told you, bro. I tried to warn you. Bro, I told you.” But even the least pilled person who harbored a minute distrust of pigs because of a bullshit traffic ticket is get this whole story machine gunned into their consciousness.

    Both of those paragraphs seem opposing and binary but they are both coming to a head. Maybe a blip. Maybe a boom. (Not attack based, but frame of thought.) But the cognitive dissonance is real. And “Havana Syndrome" might be turned in to ‘Uvalde Syndrome’.

    Yay!

  • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I've said this on a previous post but here is another example of my new totally correct conspiracy. Americans are so capeshit brained that they crave supervillains. Therefore they create the conditions to give as many people as possible supervillain baclstories.

    I mean tell me this isn't some punisher shit.

    • VeganVelveeta [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      The punisher isn’t a villain though because he shoots cops and that is always morally correct

      • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        That is true absolutely. Which is why it's so funny cops love the punisher symbol so much.

  • Cromalin [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    :acab-3: but i can't help but feel a little bad for him. obviously he's not a good person, but he still got fucked by the cops here.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    We have reports that the ex president of Bolivia, Evo Morales, is in the school, let's let loose our unhinged shooter and make sure that he gets the job done.

    Oh, what, that's not the same name?