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  • layla
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    2 years ago

    America is obsessed with upholding the Constitution not because it was written by imperfect human beings but because it is the vehicle which has greatly improved the human condition throughout these past 230 years. There is no other method that has endured so long, freed and uplifted and inspired so many people as the Constitution of the United States. It is a keeper.

    Most propagandised people on earth.

    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      China, looking up from pulling hundreds of millions out of poverty in the past 30 years alone: What was that? Did someone say my name?

      • reddit [any,they/them]
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        2 years ago

        It's fucking mind boggling how stupid this country is. Socialism has taken a rural peasant country and produced a super power in like 50 years, twice, and still people here are convinced it's some fantasy system

        • invo_rt [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I've made this exact point before, but as a counter factual, I can't think of a place that has rapidly developed in the same way due to capitalism. Rather, it seems to have buoyed the existing world powers through industrialization.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Communist countries are demonized if a single person trips on their shoelaces, but the US can be an imperfect beacon of light even though it’s founded on genocide and slavery with modern people still refusing to change the language that advocates for those things

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      We basically chose to barely update it and now use the fact that we didn’t as justification for not doing it further. Big brain shit tbh

      • regul [any]
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        2 years ago

        Look we've had this paper for a long time. That's why we need to have it longer.

        • invo_rt [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Says person who hangs on to that box of computer cables for just one more year in case they need them.

          • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            One day I'm going to need that serial printer cable in case I buy a dot matrix printer.

            I don't have a problem

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      12 days ago

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    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      They really do believe that their system is the best. Every election cycle I would hear at least one person say, "other countries don't get to vote for their leaders" and I'm over here wondering what those other countries are.

    • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      That's absolutely amazing. You all fought a civil war because the constitution wasn't good enough, they literally had to spill blood over the framer's idiocy like 150 years ago.

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The constitution should have been torn up after the civil war (also the radical republicans should have been far more radical)

        • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          It's crazy to me that Johnson let former confederates vote and hold office or hold property. They obviously should have stripped all the slave owners of their property and parcel it out to freed slaves or returned it to whatever indigenous nation was in that area or something, fuck.

          • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            It’s crazy to me that Johnson let former confederates vote and hold office or hold property

            he was literally a southern democrat. lincoln got rid of his first VP hannibal hamlin and replaced him with a drunk racist piece of shit as an appeal to "national unity" after he already won the civil war. he should have been stomping the face of the vanquished dixie leaders into a soup like homogenate but was instead trying to appeal to them with civility

            Centrism: not even once.

            https://i.ibb.co/M2vKN4V/Lincoln-is-proof-centrism-doesnt-work.png

            • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Marx thought Johnson would've been alright because he was a fairly brutal military governor of Tennessee. Pretty sure he wrote about it to Engels but I cant find the letter.

              • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                there's a whole book of their published letters to each other regarding the american civil war but they were spectating from across the ocean in a time when there wouldn't be a "24 hour news cycle" for another 135 years so.

    • mr_world [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Sometimes you just own people and force them to do labor even after people realize it's probably a bad thing to do. Sometimes I write the wrong year when writing the date. Nobody is perfect.

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    It’s a flawed document, but its primary strength is its ability to be changed

    I almost fell out of my chair lmfao. Democrats can't even pass a guarantee for voting rights through the Senate and this guy thinks we can get a constitutional amendment to pass through over 70 state and federal legislatures. You need 38/50 states to do it and 26/50 of them just banned abortion.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      So many countries have edited their constitution since their inception. The US is the only big player that regularly reveres the sacred holy toilet paper to the point of receiving death threats if you suggest so much as a comma in the middle of a sentence

        • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Law students will literally dig up 2 century old amendments rather than accept a mediocre college grade

      • pink_mist [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        The states also have their constitutions and you only need to look at the the state of Texas to see a constitution done wrong. Imagine every bad law (like tort reform or same-sex marriage bans) being constitutional because each law was passed by constitutional amendment.

        So do you have any examples of constitutional amendment processes done right?

        • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          IMO, this is just how common law systems are doomed to operate. Judicial interpretations become case law and the only way to change it is either to amend the constitution or appoint idelogues to the judiciary who are willing to toss stare decisis straight out the window.

          Leaving the shitshow of Texas aside, amendments to state constitutions are often among the only ways to put a public referendum on the ballot and are often used to pass something that could just as well had been legislation were it not for the terminally corrupt state legislatures.

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    1 year ago

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      21 days ago

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      • Fartster [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        We should start a parody sub and just fill it with racist comments about crackers.

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    1 year ago

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    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      2 years ago

      Would that have been the time he travelled there with the underage slave that he raped and then had to coerce into returning to the US as his slave again in exchange for promising to emancipate the children she was forced to bear(by the time they turned 21)?

  • rubpoll [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Libs: Our Constitution is good because it can be changed.

    Also Libs: Our Constitution is good because it hasn't been changed.

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    1 year ago

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