20 years is a really short sentence considering what know about her crimes, plus not giving anyone else up. Imagine if this was a non-white poor person, they would get multiple lifetime sentences. Fucking bullshit, this bitch will likely get out in time to die free.
i mean if it was a nonwhite poor person they wouldn't been given the means and the opportunity to do the things she did. a light sentence is her reward for keeping quiet.
depends, rich women live 5 more years on average, but prison might cancel that out
She's a pedophile, I think it's a safe bet she'll be treated pretty poorly in prison if she's ever anywhere near other inmates
Death to America
I rember from the trial coverage she seemed really smug the entire time until about 1/3 the way through when I think she realized that the deep state friends where gonna hang her out to dry. .
I also think she won't say anything about the others that very clearly helped make this this happen. Because epstein was murdered. So the light sentence is the reward for shutting the fuck up and not saying anything.
I won't be suprized if a limo picks her up when her sentence is up/ and or commuted a bunch of time.
I didn’t follow the trial, but seems you did.
Can you elaborate on your first paragraph? Sounds completely legit but just wanna hear more.
From what I remember of true anon trial coverage, her lawyers started off by comparing Ghislaine getting blamed to eve eating the apple and how women throughout history get blamed for men's shit. They also came off pretty smug during cross examination of witnesses iirc.
You know why. She did cooperate, that’s why she is still alive - the deal was to keep her mouth shut.
Yes this will be memory-holed and anyone who mentions her or Epstein will be looked at like crazy conspiracy theorists who start talking about fluoride in the water
It's partially her cooperation but it's also the class she was born into
She's been a member of the ruling class since birth, they won't kill her unless they have to
Epstein and Brunel on the other hand were both born middle or lower class and all their wealth came from sus connections, therefore they were more disposable
If this had been someone who wasn’t rich and famous the sentence would’ve been like 18 consecutive life sentences
I gotta be honest I'm pretty :grillman: on the whole Epstein thing now.
I mean sure it's just direct evidence that more than one US head of state and multiple billionaires were child molesters, but you're bored now I guess.
Yes.
I mean, we're never gonna know any more details on it. And I think it's pretty clear what was going on: if you're rich and powerful and you were are pederast, Epstein would hook you up. And eventually the CIA approached him and he provided them with blackmail material.
And that's, I think, the story. These notions that Epstein was at the center of some conspiracy that would bring down the capitalist class was always (IMO) the drug-fueled vision quests of guys like Matt Christman and Brace Belden.
I'm just not interested in giving it more of my mental energy. Uncovering the people involved isn't gonna bring around some revolution or even move the needle one bit. I'd love to see the people involved faced consequences but that's a fantasy at this point.
(All this isn't directed at you, of course, just venting my feelings on it).
So did the rich and powerful just stop fucking kids cold turkey after he got arrested? Shouldn't we be asking who the new Epstein is?
I think a less :grillman: way to say the same thing is that Epstein was not the lynchpin in the conspiracy and the alternative to him getting suicided was not “the entire operation falls apart and we have an international reckoning with the fact that anyone with 8 figures or more in their bank account has fucked a child without exception”. This stuff was true before Epstein, we had a moment where everyone happened to really latch onto the story, that moment passed without any major organizations seizing it, and now this stuff is still true. These articles have come out periodically for decades.
“Hey, the elites are fucking kids.”
“Hey, rich people are doing sex tourism.”
“Hey, we busted a pedophile sex ring and there’s almost certainly way more of them we didn’t bust.”
“Hey, yet another celebrity has credible accusations of abusive pedophilia going back decades.”
“Hey. Hey. Hey.”
It’s yet another issue that is enabled by capitalism. I think if a rando on the internet has the interest and time to do original research on this issue, it would be a good use of their time. Personally, I am far too triggered by the subject to immerse myself in it to the extent that would be necessary.
I wouldn't think there's a single new Epstein as much as there always were others doing the same job he did
Maybe it's just one of the cushier retirement packages for aging :cia: agents that lets them have fun while continuing to serve the capital and :epstein: was just the one sloppy enough to get caught one too many times
some conspiracy that would bring down the capitalist class
I never heard Matt or Brace say this.
Nothing will ever come out of this, she's the dumb one that got caught and will have to serve prison time.. the remaining people will live their lifes peacefully.
Also 20 years in prison for maintaining a pedophile ring? that it?
I thought 20 years was what you got for like robbing a 7-11 or having a couple pounds of weed
Mumia has been in jail for 40 years and they're not letting him out soon
I see two scenarios, she will be suicided in jail or she will be quietly released in a few short years.
I'm betting more on the latter but I could be wrong