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  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    8 months ago

    It's not so much that they're bigger, it's that they're longer.

    16:9 is a good aspect ratio not because of anything to do with video, but because it's close to the golden ratio. Half the screen is proportional to the rotated full screen, and there's open space to use.

    These days there are no more 16:9 phones on the market, and 18:9 is the shortest they get. Many are even 20:9 or even 22:9. What are you going to do with a phone that is 2.5 times as long as it is broad? Sure, a 7" phone that's 2.9x6.5" is less area than a 7" phone that's 3.7x5.7". But it's less practical too. You need a minimum width for a keyboard and other things, and beyond a certain point, more screen height is just not useful.

    Longer phones are really only good for scrolling- that activity we do in-between actually engaging with content. The assumption that customers actually like scrolling, along with how it's easier to make a larger "screen size" (longer diagonal) by making the device longer, is a driving perverse incentive that makes the hardware worse- generally unpleasant to use. Not only does it not fit in a pocket, you have to choke up on the phone to reach the corners, you almost need to glance up and down to see the full screen.

    Any longer and we'll have phones that look like NEOM.

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    8 months ago

    While it may not help those of you trapped in the Apple ecosystem in such a way that you cannot escape, the Zenfone 10 is less than a millimeter wider than the iPhone SE and is the current model. The Zenfone 11 should come out in the next few months. Just don't get the Ultra as that is a very large phone. Asus has already confirmed that they have no intention of ceasing production of flagship small-footprint phones any time soon.

    • makotech222 [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      For some reason they pulled the bootloader unlocker for the zenphone, which really sucks. I dunno if ill ever upgrade from the 9

  • Deadend [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    I have big hands. I miss my iPhone 7, that was the last phone I could hold and touch all parts of the screen.

    We had to make phone screens bigger to fit all the fucking ads.

    • Owl [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      We had to make phone screens bigger to fit all the fucking ads.

      We had to make phones bigger to fit bigger batteries to power bigger processors to run all the tracking software for the fucking ads.

    • FishLake@lemmygrad.ml
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      8 months ago

      I recently had to retire my iPhone 7 and got a X+(n-1) or whatever. I just miss having a physical button. Touch ID is sorely missed too.

      • nothx [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        Face ID can get fucked. I miss Touch ID so much.

  • Azarova [they/them]
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    8 months ago

    i recently got a pixel 7a and it doesnt even fit in the pockets of some of my womens clothing. we've gone way too far. i dont even know anyone who prefers these enormous bricks to the more moderately sized phones.

  • Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    I yearn for a smaller phone too, but I'm Android only and not open to outdated phones + super low budget. :(

    • RION [she/her]
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      8 months ago

      If the issue w/ older phones is software you can always use LineageOS! I'm running it on a Pixel 4a and it's a pretty good experience, minus a few quirks

      • Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml
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        8 months ago

        That's useless to me, because

        • I use NFC
        • I need Google Play app detected correctly as downloaded through GP for banking
        • not all phone models are compatible with Linux mobile OS anyway afaik - most aren't
          • Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml
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            8 months ago

            It's still released for limited phone models and search engine tells me NFC doesn't work on it without workarounds and then maybe it still doesn't. I need a working phone, not an experiment.

            • RION [she/her]
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              8 months ago

              NFC doesn't work on it without workarounds and then maybe it still doesn't

              That's fair. I myself haven't tried magisk to get around safety net/play integrity because it's not a huge priority for me. I've learned to live without it, but if it's a must for you then I understand.

              I'd push back on the "limited phone models" though. Yes, LineageOS doesn't cover every phone under the sun, but for those it does the support is rock solid. The original Google pixel from 2016 is still getting the latest version with all the security update. There should be more than enough variety in the supported devices to find something for everyone.

              • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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                8 months ago

                I myself haven't tried magisk to get around safety net/play integrity

                I recently had to do this with a phone I'd rooted a year or two ago. It only took like 20 minutes. Honestly it's not so bad, if you accept that your banking & streaming apps might stop working like once a year and you have to look up the new fix.

                You can also keep an old phone as a backup for such cases. I just used an old phone for streaming for like a week when I was too lazy to fix the safety net check.

            • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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              8 months ago

              Seems to be that NFC/tap to pay works with LineageOS if you have a locked bootloader and gapps. LineageOS is definitely a "working phone" OS (the "experimental" days of Android OSes is like eight years ago, to be honest), but like any non-OEM OS it's going to be a little more involved than just buying a phone at the store

              • RION [she/her]
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                8 months ago

                Relocking the bootloader is really not recommend on LineageOS and can result in a permanently bricked device. DivestOS supports relocking but that's a whole different beast with its own compromises.

  • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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    8 months ago

    Am I just being a smartphone boomer? I

    My phone is 6.7" and fits fine in my hand and my pockets fit it without issue with a case on. It's at the upper end of what I would be willing to use though. But I think there is a general lack of widespread smaller phones for those who prefer that and definitely have avoided phones for being too large.

    • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      fitting in the hand is a lot different from being able to reach the entire screen one-handed but yeah... I sense that what a lot of the big-phone heads (especially those that are now getting into folding display phones) would love is something like an ipad mini, but there's also a sizable indifferent group. I don't feel limited hugely by not being able to reach every corner one-handed, but I also do miss when a phone was primarily just a phone with some extra features, and not an everything-device. A swiss army knife rather than a leatherman, so to speak

    • beef_curds [she/her]
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      8 months ago

      But I think there is a general lack of widespread smaller phones for those who prefer that

      I'm a bit surprised that with cells kinda plateauing with what they can offer that we haven't seen a return to niche feature phones. The closest we see to that is the folding screen stuff.

      I really feel that for most other markets with a glut like this, we'd start seeing a bunch of options tied to people's identity. A "rugged" phone with a solar panel and long battery for preppers, smaller phones for minimalists, gamer phones with an analog stick.

      I know these things exist in deep niches, but I'm just surprised we haven't seen marketing start pushing them as real options yet. Because there just doesn't seem like there's much more to offer as far as mainline phones go.

      • Ildsaye [they/them]
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        8 months ago

        cap-think Hmm, having no 3.5 mm jack is a pretty happenin' identity these days, right?

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    God has both blessed and cursed me with giant hands. I have no problem holding flagship phones! But I can barely use the keyboard even at real big size.

    Smartphone was a mistake, retvrn to Nokia brick.

  • HamManBad [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Karls Darwin says we have evolution, so our hands will get bigger over time to hold the new phones

  • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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    8 months ago

    Sony briefly had a Compact line. friend had a z3 compact and loved it. I can't imagine they're super usable these days though, at least not without some effort

    also you may have better luck looking at what LTE bands a device supports vs official carrier compatibility lookups, if you arent already

    edit: cubot pocket might work okay in some markets but it definitely will be spotty coverage wise

    the last sony compact was the xz2 compact. 5" screen overall but only 2.6" wide so probably a lot nicer in the hand at least

  • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    Hot take: I have a Pixel 8 Pro and I love the large screen size.

    This is my second Pro and I recently had a chance to go smaller, but got the Pro again. Sometimes it's hard to hold but I prefer the screen size and it makes me feel, at least, like I'm getting a pretty good view of a video when it's turned horizontally.

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    REAL

    I remember when the portrait-lock people were getting arsey this time fifteen years ago, they said 'landscape is dumb! what are you, a slidephone user? I just use the eyephone with one hand!' and now they all look really stupid. One hand use is a meme. Retvrn to landscape. Make wpm.