Stupid motherfuckers knew this would happen for decades and now they have 60 days to fix it lol. What a useless fucking country.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    2 years ago
    don't open this message within 100 meters of a lathe
    1. The states fail to come up with a plan

    2. The federal government declares that they're cutting the water off

    3. The states ignore the decree

    4. The federal government fails to enforce its decree

    5. Further decline of the US's ability to enforce law

    6. Massive droughts and power outages because this was actually important

    • MelaniaTrump [undecided]
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      2 years ago

      the Pheonix property market is already starting to crash hard over this and the fact that interest rates are unaffordably high because the federal reserve hates it when poor people get more money

      Housing Market Warning as Prices Suddenly Fall in One U.S. City

      https://www.newsweek.com/housing-market-real-estate-mortgage-phoenix-arizona-interest-1722144

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Almost like using millions of gallons of water to farm thirsty crops like almonds, and to also keep shitty monoculture fescue grass green in a desert was...kind of a stupid idea?

    Ed:

    states will need to figure out a way to cut usage by 2 to 4 million acre-feet in 2023 — which amounts to Arizona’s entire annual intake, if not more.

    King of the Hill was always right

    • Parent [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      This is going to be spicy. No one is going to want to give up their water.

        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          if we're going by sheer stupidity (aka per acre wasteage) rather than gross impact, then it's golf courses > lawns > almond farming

          the grass on golf courses is just....something else

          • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah i agree. Also yeah fuck the nuts grown in central valley. But lots of those guys are not pulling from the Colorado river. They are drilling wells up to 2k feet deep+ to get too water. They are hiring oil well exploration companies to drill the wells. Pretty nuts 😀

            • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              The Corcovado Gulf in Chile could easily be dammed to create a large freshwater reservoir (it might already be brackish)--and the climate is perfect for almonds (not that it matters, just eat a bit less almonds won't kill you)

              unfortunately Boric seems clowny

      • SickleRick [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        How much of the water usage for agriculture is growing the turf that they sell in big rolls though? I tried to find some data on it but I couldn't find any data on how much acreage is used for what crops in Arizona.

          • SickleRick [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It's the solution to living in a climate that grass isn't supposed to grow in. Tired of yellow, dead grass in the summer because you live in a fucking desert? Buy already grown grass by the roll every fucking summer!

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      We also grow an ungodly amount of alfalfa to feed the beef of other states as well as Saudi Arabia (legit just learned that this morning reading some collapse articles on California ag).

      • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        The sauds are buying up ag land in the desert here cuz they know how to farm a desert. And it's too hot to grow crops there now to feed their livestock

        • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          It's insane though how wasteful it is to cater to beef needs when we could switch to goats (or just go non cattle ag but I feel way too many chuds would shoot up whole foods in reaction to it).

          • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            It's for their sheep. I don't think they are feeding our beef ranches. Maybe some. But most of it is being shipped back to the me to keep their livestock alive

            • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Again this is the true answer, but tell this to a chud that wants red meat every single day and suddenly you get someone shooting up a local farmers market cuss of brainworms.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    California and six other Western states have less than 60 days to pull off a seemingly impossible feat: Cut a multi-way deal to dramatically reduce their consumption of water from the dangerously low Colorado River.

    Never even says which other states, fucking American "journalism"

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Lol, exceptionally bad, according to Wikipedia two of the states are Mexican states (Sonora and Baja California). More than a non-trivial problem.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        2 years ago

        Lmao they really buried the lede on that one. Bluecheck brain, only coastal American states with major cities count

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Oh boy I can't wait for the resulting international incident

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Baja California

        Is this going to threaten America's strategic supply of Mountain Dew Baja Blast?

        • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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          2 years ago

          somehow i dont think mexican states are consulted... even if wyoming barely is in the watershed

          • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It's possible that the author of the article counted 7 states in the Wikipedia article and didn't realize 2 of them are Mexican, lol.

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      1 year ago

      deleted by creator

  • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    The Great Salt Lake doesn’t get any water from the Colorado River, but this year the lake is in danger of reaching a tipping point where its salinity becomes so high due to low water that it can no longer support life for brine shrimp. Brine shrimp are what migrating birds eat as they travel across Utah, so losing brine shrimp means millions of migratory birds will be affected. A dry Great Salt Lake also means tons of environmental harm to humans because the toxic dust hidden in the lake bed is becoming more and more exposed.

    The drought in the US West is a thousand disasters happening at once. I’ve been keeping an eye on Utah news about it and it’s happening even faster than I anticipated tbh

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    lol according to the article california is under no obligation to cut it's water usage under current agreements

    there's no way the farmers in california will let the state cut their water intake down by much

    arizona and nevada might be fucked

        • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Waiting for the Biden tweet on that

          "Congress must act to prevent drought related deaths and the filibuster should not stand in the way. But right now, we don’t have the votes to change the filibuster. That means we need to elect more Democratic senators and reelect our House majority in November to get this bill to my desk."

          I didn't even have to change much

          lol

          lmao

          :agony-limitless:

        • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          yeah, banning one kind of crop is just as hard as shutting down the entirety of animal agriculture 🙄

          • Lord_ofThe_FLIES [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Shutting down animal ag would actually do something. Almonds aren't one of the main drivers of climate change

            • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              this is about a water situation, something libs might actually address. not climate change as a whole.

              calibrate your scope or you might as well just say "abolish capitalism" every time and, yeah, we already know.

  • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    the colorado river hasnt reached the sea since the 1960s. everyones been living and developing out there in willful ignorance for 2+ generations

    its like the world at large in microcosm :doomer:

  • shiteyes2 [any]
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    2 years ago

    I'm gonna lol at this now before horrors beyond human comprehension and the Humongous comes for my water

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Fun fact: There's an event in Nevada called Wasteland Weekend that's kind of like Burning Man for people who really really like Mad Max. The Humungous shows up every year and makes everyone pancakes.

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    i really appreciate living in an area with cheaper housing and water. it's pretty cool! also, this is like watching 7 separate countries have a problem, because thats all the US is. 50 separate countries. Dead slaveowners forgot to write down healthcare and better gun restrictions, so the federal govt just can do nuffin.

  • thirstywizard [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    When I was growing up in CA I figured nuclear-powered desalination plants would be the solution, as an adult I figure mass climate migration and Mad Max will be the response, for the US doesn't do solutions that involve infrastructure.

    • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      i really enjoy the idea of a desal plant that runs on uranium byproduct in the salty sludge they take out of tge water

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    That's how it always goes. Put it off until shit is breaking or broke and then wonder what happened

    • save_vs_death [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      the federal government will step in and cut the water allocations for them because if they keep sipping the water out, downstream electric dams will make no more electric

    • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Big daddy gov does it for us. These states have had years to prepare for this, and since they haven't, hopefully they feel the consequences. Californians will be pissed they have to change useage at all, while the other states will simply be strangled over time

    • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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      2 years ago

      They'll decide that subsidized water to keep lawns green for people who voluntarily live in the desert is more important than greenish hydroelectric power and start burning a hell of a lot more fossil fuels, steadily exacerbating the original problem.