• Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      China literally just vibin and riding out all this shit while America continues to drink its own kool-aid.

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I fucking remember this! The media coverage was insane nonsense. No one in an official position would say it was deliberate, but they always made sure to also point out that no mistakes were made in any part of the mission that led to the embassy being bombed. There were no admissions of having bad maps, bad intel, or a miscommunication. I was just in high school then, but I remember pulling my hair out reading these horrible articles that just pretended like there was no need for an idiot like me to know whether or not the attack on the embassy was deliberate.

      Anyway, the embassy bombing led directly to the hatching of my brainworms. The eggs had been planted by having already read a little Marx.

    • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      you forgot funding a color revolution in HK. that was when I figured out MSM is FAKE AS FUCK. they edited videos to make hk police look bad but then if you look at the full length videos they're always acting in self-defense. the equivalent riots if they happened in the US would have resulted in many many deaths of students/rioters

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    China invented "being the one state that isn't constantly in turmoil" and the rest of the world is struggling to defeat this strategy

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The tradeoff is every 150 years there's a civil war that kills like 30 million people

      • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Which leads to ridiculous wiki pages like "the scouting party of the y dynasty met the forward elements of the x rebels and a small skirmish occurred, casualties: 6000000"

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I've long felt cheated that I was taught European history and not Chinese history. When you look at it with a bit more knowledge it's so clear that Europe was a cultural and economic backwater until more or less when the Spanish found silver in the Americas. Everything cool was happening in Bagdad and China.

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            2 years ago

            Showing my bias, but the development of Greek culture and later the Roman empire is still impressive. Rome was comparable to China in cultural impact and material wealth. I would argue Greece is more middle eastern than European, and the way we show Rome as European ignores the African and near Eastern influences on the empire.

            • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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              2 years ago

              aegyptus and anatolia were the richest provinces of the roman empire bar italia and africa was one of the richest per capita, its european provinces were generally backwaters save like hispania.

              • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                2 years ago

                Yeah. There's a reason the eastern half if the empire persisted for another 1000 years after the western half fell.

          • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I like Patrick Wyman's thesis that capitalism could only be invented in a backwater like Europe. Why would the Ottoman empire need an elaborate financing system? They're solvent from taxing trade already.

            • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              It's the dark ages between 'the fall of the Roman Empire' and the Renaissance, but not in a way that makes the rest of the world even more important in comparison. Until colonialism the rest of the world is just where things come from sometimes, mostly exotic trade goods and invading hordes from the East that have no history outside that invasion.

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        China has been doing balkanization and reconquest for so long that they've perfected it

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I don't think westerners get how much "sitting about and doing nothing" is going well for China. It's like the geopolitical equivalent of "Never interrupt your opponent as they're making a mistake" for the past 30 years as capitalism keeps shooting itself in the foot

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      A lot of leftists criticize China for not exporting revolution and working with capitalists. As much as we might not like it, that policy is a key part of why China can seemingly "do nothing" and come out ahead. China's development would not be nearly as smooth or advanced if it was constantly getting embroiled in foreign conflicts.

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        A lot of leftists criticize China for not exporting revolution and working with capitalists.

        Myself included circa like last year but when you put it like that, yeah. It's proven to be an extremely valuable strategy to sit and bide your time while the US commits farce after farce

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          In my mind, this is one of the lessons China learned from the fall of the USSR. The Soviet Union, for all the good it did, declared itself the champion of global revolution and made itself the enemy of all existing capitalist states. This led to it being completely encircled and besieged, contributing a lot to it's downfall.

          China assumes a position of neutrality in most matters and trades with everyone, integrating itself into international economic and political structures in a way that makes aligning against it and isolating it incredibly painful for the capitalists.

        • CommunistBear [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Can't build the productive forces with the push of a button :shrug-outta-hecks:

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I'd hardly even say that. The frogs are boiling themselves in the pot and yelling at each other over who's turning up the temperature. Meanwhile, China is in the next street over minding its own business building a birdhouse or something

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I remember this super toxic machismo guy on Hell's Kitchen (probably scripted but still) who, upon losing a challenge to a lady, was like "She didn't really win. She only won because I lost."

    Major westoid vibes re: China nowadays

    • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      she only won because I lost

      What exactly is the definition of winning then

      • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        You see, sweatie, winning is not about beating another person. It’s about how you tell your story.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      I understand what he meant, that she didn't do particularly well, he just absolutely failed so she won by default. Which I think describes Russia in the modern world. Not exactly doing well, but constantly increasing its strength because everyone else fails miserably.

  • Lilith [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Turns out that when a country doesn’t waste it’s time trying to fight stupid wars, it can instead focus on better improving the quality of life for its citizens.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        What on earth happened there why did someone shoot Abe

        Not defending him I have basically no idea who he is other than the fact he's prime minister of Japan

        • Redcuban1959 [any]
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          2 years ago

          After his arrest, Yamagami told investigators that he was dissatisfied with Abe and intended to kill him. Yamagami also claimed that he held a grudge against a "particular religious group" and shot Abe because he believed that "the religious group and Abe were connected". The Nara Prefectural Police refused to elaborate on what the "religious group" was. Yamagami claimed that he "didn't have a grudge against Abe's political beliefs". Yamagami told police that he kept track of Abe's schedule during his visit to Nara on Abe's website. Yamagami also claimed that he was planning an attack for "several months" and built a gun to kill Abe.

              • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Most do, but some actually buy into antisemitism despite the, uh, minuscule population. Probably due to influence by Western reactionaries coupled with the belief Japan is facing a systematic conspiracy trying to take it down.

                The super fashy Angel Cop anime in 1989 had the Commie terrorist group revealed to be backed by Jewish bankers in the end, for example. (Weirdly, this was written during the height of Japan’s “economic miracle”, not after the burst)

          • SaniFlush [any, any]
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            2 years ago

            Should have known that only crackpots do this kind of stuff these days.

            • MalarchoBidenism [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Random acts of politically motivated violence

              Then:

              "Death to tyrants! All power to the workers!" :swole-doge:

              Now:

              "I had to stop them from putting fluoride in our children's wi-fi" :cheems:

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    It's the immortal science of :sit-back-and-enjoy: the contradiction of capitalism

  • Abraxiel
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    2 years ago

    Just gotta be a pedant and say that Xi is his family name, so it would be Xi thought if just using one name. Unless you're like, "I'm a Karlist."

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    It's how they managed to win the war in Afghanistan despite not even qualifying for a participation trophy if you go by the book. Seems to be working fine.