gcj post making fun of this man
Americans have a deep-seated deranged longing to be in a situation where absolute brutality can be hypothetically justified. Self-defense violence fantasies continue to be unhinged. There’s a shitload of supportive comments in the AMA too.
This psychopath didn't need to stab anyone. He was in zero danger when he attacked the robber.
No property is worth what he did.
The property is petty, too. This is a head shop, it's gonna be glass or vapes or paper or something. This person tried to murder someone over that.
Getting butchered over a puff bar is quite an accurate summation of the US atm
Americans increasingly resemble the tortured animals in Harry Harlow's unethical experiments
I saw this video posted to Twitter yesterday and the comments (and video) actually made me very upset.
I am relieved to see at least in some other places this psychopathy isn’t celebrated.
This incident has made me realize we need to solve the “small business owner” problem
4chan celebrated it because they thought it was a black person getting stabbed until they learned it was a white man and now they’re going on a moral crusade against this shopkeeper.
Yeah, the twitter comments had a real local crime reporting story comment section vibe to it. I thought we moved past wishing people death over robberies and shoplifting.
There is nothing worth a human life in a head shop. Not even that ornate bong in the locked case. Someone jumps over the counter wanting it? You unlock the case and give it to them. Why the fuck are you defending the owner's property in the first place? Why put yourself at risk for shit that ain't even yours?!?!?!?
Then fuck him doubly. File an insurance claim. This sort of thing is figured into the cost of doing business from day 1. And if it's not, the head shop shouldn't be around in the first place.
He's just a chud who had fantasies of violence his whole life, and then one day all his dreams came true and he got to stab a child for a minor property crime. The kind of minor property crime that most DAs won't even file charges for, and rightfully so.
I guess I should've said burgled, because the thing that comes to mind is people jerking themselves raw over the thought of burglars dying.
I ran across a new subreddit yesterday: RobbersGettingFucked, which is where I saw this video posted.
A subreddit that's just absolutely dedicated to bloodlust, incredible.
Edit: or rather, another subreddit dedicated to bloodlust
New subreddit idea: /r/BusinessOwnersGettingFucked
Somehow I don't think they would let that one stay up, though
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the good samaritan parable is about compassion toward your fellow man?? it's not about protecting fucking company profits?
Yeah it's absolutely horrific. I do not recommend to anyone at all that doesn't want their day ruined.
Shopkeep didn't have to do it at all.
the taller guy grabbed his stuff and ran out of the store, the guy that got stabbed jumped over the counter to grab stuff, but he was far away from the store keeper. The store keeper actually rushed to stab him. Stupidity from all parties.
If you jump over the counter I’m assuming you’re going to kill me. The last thing I’m thinking about is communism or the prison industrial complex or your material conditions or whatever.
Can you explain why?
You ever been in a fight? Things happen very very very fast. Most people don't realize if they've been stabbed until a couple of minutes later because a knife goes in and out of you so fast you barely feel it until the adrenaline starts to wear down. A lot of people never even see the knife because really how visible is four inches of steel sticking out of someone's fist? A gun could come out of nowhere with no real warning.
Or someone could just knock you down and kick you in the head until you die. Hell, some kid in I think Spain died the other day bc a guy he was in a shouting match with shoved or punched him and he fell down and hit his head. Fractured skull. Died of cerebral hemorrhage about 20 hours later. Only got hit once and the hit itself didn't even do much damage, the fall did.
If someone comes at you unexpectedly you should assume that they're going to hurt you and do everything in your power to defend yourself without concern for the attackers safety or welfare. You can give them first aid once they're incapacitated if you want.
I cannot emphasize enough how little time you have to make critical assessments like "Does this guy have a knife?" "Does this guy have a blunt object?" "Can I run away?" "Can I get to a safe place?" Time slows down, most people either freeze or react on pure subconscious instinct mode.
And this all gets multiplied if you're old, or a woman, or disabled, or just a smaller person facing a larger person. If your attacker has a physical advantage over you your situation just got exponentially worse and it becomes that much more important that you use overwhelming violence to gain control of the situation so you can either fight off your assailant or create room to escape. You're not even trying to hurt them, that's not the goal; The goal is to shock them out of their "I'm the attacker and I'm in control" mindset so you have room to act, either to put them on the defensive so you can put them out of the fight, or to give yourself space to make a break for it.
I should say; If you're going to rob someone there is still some social contract shit incumbent on you. You need to be a good robber. If you're holding a knife to someone's gut or have a loaded gun pointed at someone's head you're not robinhood anymore. You're directly and immediately threatening their life and they're well within their rights to fight you with no regard for your safety.
Yes, you should comply with a robber and just give them whatever they want, but the robber has an obligation to take your safety seriously while they're robbing you. It's a two way street. We're all getting fucked by the system but you want to be robin hood you can't be a menace to other poor people.
A threat to me in any context is a binary choice between them or me. I choose me. It's the same moral logic that I employ any time a hunter is mauled to death by the animal they chose to hunt. Fuck 'em, learning occurred.
Most people don’t realize if they’ve been stabbed until a couple of minutes later
can confirm
You ever been in a fight? Things happen very very very fast.
I have in fact gotten my ass kicked a bunch of times. :shrug-outta-hecks:
Are they robbing you or are they robbing the store? If they are robbing the store what exactly is the problem with just giving them whatever is in the store, which is probably company policy anyways?
Have you been watching a bunch of videos of "Store Robberies Gone Wrong" or something of that nature, lately?
who they are robbing would be irrelevant, they're in your face and threatening you
and you can't know if they will just take the stuff and leave, or harm you even if you gave them what they wanteddisclaimer: the dude in the video is a psychopath who did not need to stab the guy
U really think the death penalty is appropriate for a smash and grab robbery? Nobody's life was in danger. This was just a $100 loss, which would be covered by insurance in any case. Even if it wasn't, seriously what business can't absorb that kind of loss? If you can't you shouldn't be open in the first place. If it's less than $950 it's not even a prosecutable crime in civilized jurisdictions.
If you jump over the counter I’m assuming you’re going to kill me.
OK boomer.
There was a giant gap between the shop owner and the thief before he lunged for the first stab. He wasn't realistically in any danger at that point and easily could have backed off. This is hardly a justifiable self-defence even without the clear intent to keep stabbing until the guy is dead.
Yes, I said the same thing in the second part of my post
My main issue here is: why are you playing some weird two-step game here, where you admit that this was not at all a legitimate use of force in the name of self-defense, then also make excuses for the guy doing it? Or talk some weird shit about how "If anyone steps to me, I'll put that punk down in two seconds."
It just feels like you're givin' off the same energy as the guy with the " 'Within the Law' Could Cost me my Life. No Lives Matter." bumper-stickers that we had posted on here earlier this week, and I don't understand why you think saying any of this is necessary in this situation.
You’re accusing me of caring about property when I’m talking about my physical safety
Whatever you say, boomer.
two ordinary citizens murdering each other isn't "the death penalty"
This guy is fucked, this little victory lap will land him in prison for sure, that's if the video evidence of his crime doesn't do it in the first place. Literally bragging about it on reddit, posting about how hes going to buy a gun so shortly after almost killing someone, talking about how his knife is the same one as CS:GO, his LoL comment - if this goes to a jury he is absolutely fucked.
Americans have a deep-seated deranged longing to be in a situation where absolute brutality can be hypothetically justified
Why do you think Zombies were uniquely popular in America and originating here?
A zombie is a back from the dead motherfucker
A soulless, crippled and meat eater folk craving for your fresh brain
Your finger is on the trigger, my friend Face to face
He mess you bad if you hesitate
Boom! Brains everywhere!
It's politically correct if you shoot a zombie in the face
Boom! Make it explode!
Relieve your working routine stress to the bloody bone
They used to be human
That's why we like them so much
We can go cannibal with no sense of shame!
We are no savage
We no pay
To see gladiators kill
We are more human than that
We are different
We shoot zombies in the face!
Shoot zombies in the face!
Zombies are slow, predictable, old-fashioned
We ain't scared or surprised watching them in action
A creative dead end
Why are they still a trend?
They're our ex-neighbour!
They're that fucking pretentious bitch and your stupid bully boss
They preserve your traits!
Semi-human so we can hate them as much as you can
They are all that we are afraid to be
Anti-human
Anti-human
We are justified
We have permission
We are licensed cannibals
By killing them, we declare
We are different
We are better
I fear, I hate, I need my green neighbor!
The more brutal you go
The more relieved you'll be
It's tolerated to go ape on them
They're filthy former human beings
We are no monsters
We no pay
To see gladiators kill
We are more human than that
We are different
We shoot zombies in the face!
Zombie movies are the white race's deep-seated fear of BIPOC. They will overwhelm us with sheer numbers, eat our brains, transform us into them (racial mixing), etc. Thus the great pleasure in finally getting to actually use our guns, and only headshots will do the job. The entire genre from George Romero to Sam Raimi is just white anxiety at a changing world which will not include them.
Specifically they are the subconscious fear of the property owner and small business owner. There’s a reason why the protagonist humans are always camped out at a location (mall, prison, farm, house, etc) and the zombies are always breaking in, breaking down the fences. We have to shoot these mindless non-humans, they are breaking into my property!!
A lot of survivalist/libertarian mindset as well, with the entire premise of everyone turning on each other once things get difficult instead of banding together - and the prepper instinct.
Well Zombies are an inversion of the old horror archetypes of Dracula and aristocratic vampires. Used to be that what scared most people was the blood sucking old money capitalist in the manor on the hill, who follows strange arcane rules and has the ability to slaughter and exploit mortals. Most people were workers or peasants.
Now most people in the US are middle-class consumers completely absorbed into the cult of individuality. They see themselves as Dracula. They see the workers and peasants of the world as mindless and stupid livestock to exploit and slaughter. Their inside subconscious source of perspective and identity has swapped from one of the lowly masses terrorized by a powerful monster, to a powerful monster who terrorizes the lowly masses. Hence the glee you see when people discuss what they would do during a hypothetical zombie apocalypse and it's pop-culture power. No peasant or worker would have felt glee at the idea of a real life vampire apocalypse.
In horror movies, monsters hunt humans. In zombie movies, humans hunt “monsters”.
At its core it’s a libidinal fantasy and power trip, an apocalypse of slow easy monsters tailored for an audience of slow incompetent viewers who want to imagine they would thrive while everyone else perishes. It’s contradictory and very dialectical tbh, zombies are an interesting trope
Why do you think Zombies were uniquely popular in America and originating here?
Haiti
Those are not the same thing with the same tropes. They are not the mindless hordes who need to have their heads blown off and justify brutality
Even a lot of commenters on the GCJ post says "hey can't blame him once the guy jumped over the counter"
Fuck this country into the ground, it should be razed and its bones salted
This dude has some real Rittenhouse/Zimmerman energy. Can't just claim self defense and fade into obscurity, no, he's gotta gloat and leverage to situation for internet fame.
It was nice of to youtube recommend the video to me first thing on my feed when I woke up. I'm glad to learn the kid survived.
“or did you play through similar situations in your head before?”
Imagine a country where many of the people you meet and speak to are just below the surface formulating plans to ace the next fucker who decides to cross them.
That's :amerikkka:
Sure we’re constantly humiliated every waking moment by our bosses, our brain-poisoned families, the air we breathe is toxic because of the wildfires and unregulated corporate pollution, we know that at any moment we could get sick from all the disease that's allowed to spread uncontrollably and the cost will be unaffordable, but we’ll keep going to work to generate profit for our swine bosses to buy another summer home.
But if just one person finally gives us an excuse it will all be worth it. We’ll have the power over life and death. Even though the person we’re murdering is just as humiliated and desperate as we are.
It's weird in the video he seems initially chill and tells them to just take the money and leave but when the guy jumps the counter he goes ballistic
It's also insane to do an AMA about this so soon
The idiot is asking to get sued. There's a reason why cops don't talk after an incident where someone gets hurt until it's been handled by a lawyer. I haven't heard the audio but this video did pop up in my feed. And if that robber said "stop:" or cried to "let him go" then he's pretty liable for assault. I only know this because I knew a store owner who fired back at robbers and struck one of the robbers. The idiot store owner decides to shoot the "bad guy"* again and is doing time for murder. There is another reason why most stores have a "don't chase" policy. Yet idiot people like this keep doing it to protect bourgeois property.
*Edit - I'm only quoting local news comments.
I hope this kid gets absolutely fucked over by the legal system and loses everything. I fucking hate the internet, I'm going out side holy shit
Whether he wins or not is still financially draining. A lawyer alone is going to be $15k minimum where I'm from. The thing is that I know :so-true: idiots are going to be throwing money at this guy. This story has petite bourgeoise affectations that would so make this a national story for weeks to come. Can't wait for Brandon to give this guy a shout out in one of his speeches as he dumps another $12 billion for police budgets on his way out.
