Operations Associate in Marketing. I hate to be the bearer of bad news Sara but what you are doing is not “work”. Both you and your cooler co-workers are creating equal amounts of value, 0. You just want your co-workers to be as bored and boring as you.
I say this as someone with a Marketing degree and years of experience working in similar jobs before I left out of boredom for something more meaningful before I turned into a Sara-type hall monitor nerd
I love to be Sara Cooksey and complain my coworkers aren't writing enough promotional tweets for NFT wallet apps that sell tracking data to Palantir
Yeah, 95% of marketing is useless and the rest is being a Web Dev/Designer.
99.99% of marketing work is useless and the rest is letting people know where to find public services.
Reminds me of someone on Twitter (reddit?) who was arguing against maternity leave because she had no plans to have babies so apparently no one else should have the right to maternity leave if she wasn't going to also benefit.
no one that selfish should be raising children anyway, so good call on her part
can't wait to become old with literally no young people around that'll definitely not be awful
they're confident the young of the third world will come and serve them
good point but idk, I dont think they even consider it. It just does not occur that someone serves them, those arent people.
Sara, you fucking loser, please stop this at once. Fucking "You forgot to assign us our homework", the adult version.
Tbh I have a coworker that tries to offload difficult and time consuming tasks on me. But the answer isn't snitching or spyware, it's waiting until 10 minutes before a deadline and going "oh sorry, just saw your message".
How does she know her coworker is doing less if they both work from home? It's pretty fucked up for her to assume that.
Because she is the hero in her own story and everything she does is good and heroic and everyone else is either her sidekick or her enemy.
Depending on the work, you can 100% tell if a coworker is half-assing it.
This is bad for all sorts of other reasons, though.
Of course if you see it and it doesn't make your own job harder, no you didn't
It does kinda suck if your coworker doesn't do the work and you gotta pick up after them all the time but then it starts to become an organizational issue
I get that for sure. Heck I'm in that sort of situation now. It's difficult, but I've been able to get my coworker to at least pick up the slack because I know how much it weighs on everyone else. But wanting more "tracking" is going to inevitably lead to micromanaging and even more stress for herself and her coworkers.
the worst archetype of coworker (not even a boss!) is the one that yells at you to work faster/harder but does nothing. its basically the same thing but i shut down from people yelling at me so i leave the room or call instantly :ohnoes:
last time someone yealled at me at work i quit on the spot, now i work from home all by myself with 0 interaction with anyone
i work from home but i still gotta interact via calls :deeper-sadness:
Outsource them to a North Korean. That way you can be lazy and commit light treason at the same time. :kim-peace:
i've never left on the spot like that because of yelling but held my anger in and left when i was ready to a few weeks or months later after i had something lined up. but yeah, i've had managers tell me to kill myself in front of all my coworkers and scream at the top of their lungs over some bullshit while micromanaging everything all day and underpaying us. generally speaking if the manager is also the owner its worse because its their money so they think they own you now wheras in the other case its just their career but they can still be manipulative as shit. fuck em
"their money"
All those fuckers do is sign a check to give us back a portion of our money. But I'm preaching to the choir lol
true, he was probably grifting some investor anyway tbh
we all knew his business had no chance of surviving too (and it didn't) and it drove him insane that we knew it, so he would lash out by timing our bathroom breaks, having three strikes rules about being 1 minute late to work, writeups for using a different text editor, writeups for looking at social media, underpaying and other shit like that. the particular day that he was screaming at me i had basically let him know its not a big deal that we had a production outage because we have no clients anyway so who gives a shit but now that i think about it his clients were the investors he was grifting.
more managers and tracking will likely result in higher overheads and less getting done. As a rule the more managers an organisation has the worse it's managed and the less productive it is
in situations like that i talk to the person themselves and tell them that i am tired of doing all the work myself and that they need to start pulling their weight. its worked before but i can imagine scenarios where that wont work.
I'm in a rough spot of being the only person who's figured out this new design program we have to use at work (ArcGIS). I have no degree, no experience, I just know how to read the docs.
It's gotten to the point that I have 8 people some of them technically superiors knocking on my door and calling my name out from across the office literally all day to walk them through a process that I've already shown them 5 times.
I was okay with pulling a bit extra at the start because I picked it up quicker, but I'm hitting the point where I'm just opening up docs and leaving and telling people of they can't figure it out they need to learn how to read.
personally i take notes if someone is teaching me something so i don't have to bother them again. i've found that if I keep having to teach people the same things its better to just write it up as a doc and link it to them or copy/paste and not engage with them further.
It definitely makes people actually learn when you stop just coming over to fix everything. Especially when it's small things
yeah my brain is screaming "quit playing dumb and give me an answer you little shit" on that one but i would never actually say it like that
that said, that only matters if the job is not a bullshit one and if there is a consequence to you not doing the work, either
also, in my experience people who have worked non-bullshit crappy jobs at some point in their lives tend to understand this concept of pulling your weight a little better but it doesn't really translate well to the bullshit-job world because there nothing really matters, at least until material conditions get bad enough that these jobs will cease to exist
it has a direct positive impact on potentially thousands of lives so i love doing it well and i feel like people exploit my good nature :deeper-sadness:
that's cool (the first part). well another thing you could do is tell that person the same thing about pulling their weight with other workers around (but no managers) in the same room or meeting. it would even help if those people are ones that you have some solidarity with in the frist place but even if you don't that person will have to squirm a little more and will be harder for them to just say nothing in that situation since there are other people seeing it.
ive brought up unions and stuff to people i like and theyre all like 'the pay is alright and its important work what do we need a union for!' and its just...
sigh
ive explained it all everyone is just really special
i work with other high payed people too and the best i've managed to do is get them to join a secret chat where we talk about what we hate in the company but most were not interested in organizing and basically felt they had a sweet thing going so why try to change it. i work for a nonprofit now and its a similar dynamic. all the frustrated energy that could get directed at capitalism gets discipated into inter-departmental little catfights and passive-agressive nonsense. i've legit given up on trying to organize at the workplace because of that but hopefully the rising labor unrest hits the IT sector at some point.
I don’t understand why people think they have to be martyrs with other people’s work. If they’re not doing their job, you talk to them and ask and if after all that they do nothing, you lay it out for someone else to deal with.
Sometimes it can be quite easy to tell. Log of all accounts processed from a given queue, for example.
Wait until the dev fucks figure out some way to track your mouse path to ensure you're online when you say you are/have reason to believe you're not
This is such a basic, universal principle. One of the few things that can be said to apply to people of every culture across time and space. And some people just cannot fucking get it.
In the old days union boys would take the snitches outside of town and do what needed to be done.
My gf does 2x the work as anyone else in her same role (she's not trying to, really, they just don't do shit) and some dumb fucking moron allegedly bragged to their husband that they "get paid to sit around all day" and that even dumber husband told other people at work (they both work for the same company) so now they're putting trackers and shit on their computers as of today. They want them to clock out to go use the restroom now, which I literally thought was illegal. She's not happy about it.
my thing is i genuinely enjoy my work but everyone around me has to try to make me hate it :ohnoes: like i do legitimately get bored as hell all the time if i dont have some work to do.
I had that once, it's so fucking easy to fake. Just write some gibberish every 10 min and use your second comp. Or use a virtual machine bot that the tracker cant detect if you have to use your own computer.
She made it sound like it's harder to fake, like her brother has a mouse jiggling thing but she said it can tell if it's random movement. She said they're using something called Verint? And it's a work computer so idk if she could set up a virtual machine without their knowledge
Yeah, they have keystroke rate monitors and random screen captures, along with detectors for programs that circumvent. Still was easy to manually do it by keeping excel up with some arcane graphs and switching tabs every so often.
Why do people act as if there's no way to measure productivity for people working from home?
It's politically convenient for them to pretend that, because they don't actually care about metrics, they're trying to push some agenda. I sincerely doubt that Sara Cooksey actually exists.
She does, she works for HH Global. Easy to find on LinkedIn. Doesn't seem to have a Twitter account for bullying though.
probably because she isn't actually more productive than the person not doing much work as all the work they do the other doesn't is stuid bulshit
"Is the work getting done? Did billing this quarter exceed payroll and expenses? Yes? Then stop complaining."
You can't spell narcissist without "narc."
I hate these people with the passion of a thousand suns.
Imagine demanding the creation of a digital snitch to be placed over you and determine your fate.
Just creating a magic demon to spy on yourself for the benefit of your masters.
She's definitely the neighbor who complains about her neighbors yard not being green enough or properly cut
The only person on the block who has code enforcement on speed dial.
you work in fucking marketing lady. the less work you're doing the better.
