“I would never, ever say that I regret supporting the first Black woman vice president, ever. But the disappointment is real,” said one self-described former member of the #KHive, who requested to speak anonymously so as not to alienate themselves from friends made through the movement. “I was obsessed with the idea of this person who could undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop, and now I’m thinking to myself, did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?”

  • vertexarray [any]
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    2 years ago

    “I am consistently seeing people ask, ‘Where is Kamala?’” Evans said.

    Whenever Poochie's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Poochie"?

    • Presents [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      What's that thing about when you pretend to be an idiot, actual idiots join you?

        • Presents [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          having a woman of colour as the vice president would be good for the marginalized

          It's not? Just think of how many young women BIPOC are inspired by her election. They know it can be done. It's fun to dunk on Kamala but this is very real.

          • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Those young BIPOC women are slightly to the left of Kamala and this means the Democratic party will spend millions to make sure they stay unelected

          • captchaintherye [any]
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            2 years ago

            It’s not? Just think of how many young women BIPOC are inspired by her election. They know it can be done. It’s fun to dunk on Kamala but this is very real.

            I think any benefits of that, are undone by seeing the first BIPOC vice-president be a useless vapid genocide-enabling shithead.

            Same as with Obama. On paper it's inspiring, but then he was just like every white president, and worse than most.

            It has the opposite effect: disenfranchising people of color even further and making them believe that only the shittiest among their community, and the most willing to sell out, can reach the highest echelons. Which, of course, is true

        • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          oh absolutely, i mean since the beginning. Its just too insane to be a real thing, Kamala has zero charisma at all. How could it not be astroturf?

        • Rem [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Okay but what if she uses her one tiebreaker vote in the senate to bravely vote yes on a controversial racial justice legislation that a white vice president would have voted no on but that the president wouldn't veto and the conservative supreme court wouldn't strike down have u considered that

        • captchaintherye [any]
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          2 years ago

          Yep, and also /r/The_Donald. It started as a joke to make fun of his joke candidacy, then when he won, it got taken over by genuine chuds.

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    friends made through the movement.

    what "movement"? neurotic aspiring careerists driving each other increasingly insane on the internet?

    • Presents [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      They got to feel good about themselves at the time, and perhaps more importantly, superior – and that’s all that matters.

      This is shockingly correct. SO much of politics today is precisely this.

      "My arbitrary set of political beliefs makes me not just correct, but moreover I'm better than you."

      The elites who understand this can manipulate people just like marionettes. Dissident political actors can point out the strings and make people feel embarrassed about falling for it - but that's why they're so heavily into censorship. Can't point out anything if you can't speak!

      • blue_lives_murder [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Dissident political actors can point out the strings and make people feel embarrassed about falling for it

        Based on what I see from twitter anarcho-maoist-bidenists, the people who should be dissidents are the ones that fall for this the hardest

        • TheRealChrisR [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Libs b like: “Republicans just see their voters as dollar signs!” as Republicans accomplish everything their voters want, even while not being in power. Wish i kept better documentation of what voting Dem was “supposed to do” but I have a good bit comparing Democrats “fund the police!” thing to when Beavis n Butthead’s TV got stolen.

  • quiet [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    She broke ties about 13 or 15 times within the first year. We gotta vote this year so that she doesn’t need to spend every moment breaking ties.

    She's getting so tired from walking halfway across the Mall to push a blue-colored button fifteen whole times in a single year :ooooooooooooooh:

  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    obsessed with the idea of this person who could undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop

    :liberalism:

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    When you realize that racism, sexism etc. are more of a systemic than an individual issue, how do you not arrive at the obvious conclusion that they need systemic rather than individual fixes?

    • Rem [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I'm convinced that telling people that racism/sexism is systemic is just something most liberals have just learned to say, it doesnt connect to any of their other beliefs.

      Or they believe that systemic means "lots and lots of individuals do it"

      • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        thats like, half of stuff liberals say. American politics, outside of tiny communist bubbles, is pure word salad.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        It's a problem of the system in red states that could be cured if people would only :vote: harder.

      • footfaults [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Riffing on this further, they think if they get enough individuals to change, that will make the system change. It's all individual acts to them, all they want down

    • buttwater [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Systemic means we can't fix it so it's best to just do symbolic acts

  • Bruja [she/her, love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    now I’m thinking to myself, did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?

    “no, probably backed the wrong great woman, this Liz Cheney sounds like just what this country needs! #lich2024”

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    did I just make up a whole bunch of poopoopeepee that I thought would be shidding and farding everywhere by now?

    yes you did

  • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    “I always understood #KHive as a rallying cry and hashtag, but after VP was selected the person who created it started talking about trademarking and ownership, so I decided to stop using it,” Colbert said. “I just don’t believe in answering to anyone in my advocacy… especially when I can be equally as effective without the hashtag.”

    I wish khive was trademarked, it would be even funnier. And of course whoever first thought of it is trying to make money.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    yes, yes you did. common symptom of stockholm syndome too :thinking-about-it:

  • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    And while most still say that they have her back until the end, some quietly admit that the comedown from the high of a victorious campaign has been harsher than they’d expected—not that they would ever say so publicly

    Oh man the high that was completely crushing an actual movement with your astroturfed bs that fought to change nothing. That high is coming down? Is it realizing that fighting to change nothing still has the country on track to implode and that trump is right around the corner again?

    Fuck off. This is like reading one of those I'm a reckless boomer that lives in a desert and I'm up set i can't pump from lake Michigan articles.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    “I was obsessed with the idea of this person who could undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop, and now I’m thinking to myself, did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?”

    I knew they were idealists, but holy shit. props to her for being able to question things, I guess

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    I was obsessed with the idea of this person who could undo the systemic, the systematic racism and sexism and heterosexism in government with one fell swoop

    So I backed the chronically incompetent tokenized corporate shill moonlighting as a cop.

    did I just make up a person in my head who could do those things?

    If Kamala Harris can't do it, then it can't be done!