I think everyone here is underestimating this shit. This looks a lot like what the fascists were doing when they couped Ukraine in 2014.
The fighting in the streets won't involve guns, you watched BLM. It will involve clashes between unarmed civilians with an occasional shooting. They're not training for actual war they're training to function as a domestic terrorist force against the left. They will serve that function, inflicting terror, reducing protest participation and inspiring fear in people to shut up so that things get forced further and further rightwards.
something that came to mind is that they are practicing cop tactics here. Maybe they are planning on "offering their services" as a freikorps-like paramilitary force to local police forces if shit really does hit the fan. Wouldn't be much of a step considering fash are already crawling around inside every police department in America. They wouldn't be hardened soldiers but still plenty dangerous to innocents if given authority and weapons.
Also I have no doubt they also run shootings lesson at this boot camp of theirs as well. It's seriously concerning.
Yes that is exactly what I'm seeing.
Before the fascists organised in Ukraine they were football hooligans and gangs. They went to games and got in fights, spread reactionary hate, etc etc. Nothing too major just vandals and thugs.
Then they started doing this kind of training, which functioned to organise them. They would engage in local terror like attacking russian businesses or anything they could get away with due to saying something provocative, (compare this with attacks on libraries and story hour). They then later became the basis of the forces that pulled off the 2014 coup. They were maybe 2-4% of the total protest but were 90% of its effectiveness, they functioned as an organised vanguard that the rest of protesters would follow. Combine that with millions and millions of dollars on tv channels to push people to the streets and then millions and millions of dollars poured into the protests to make them "fun" with music and food provided so that people would stay there long enough to participate repeatedly. Pulling off this kind of "revolution" is a matter of having enough of an organised vanguard to direct things when necessary and having the ability to get a very large number of people to congregate somewhere important and keep them there. That's what they did and it succeeded.
After the coup the Azov commanders that got into power in the Ministry of Internal Affairs like Arsen Avakov then built the Special Tasks Patrol Police out of these various organised and trained fascist groups up and down the country. Explicitly institutionalising all of these small freikorps groups as a police force in and of themselves, they had already been acting as police during their pre-2014 terror campaigns against businesses and the like, just not the kind of "police" a liberal would identify, a fascist police and terror force.
The same tactics are occurring. The same approaches to organising are occurring.
that was basically Kyle Rittenhouse's intention for going to Kenosha, and he went with his fascist friends too. we saw how much the police protected him.
the more organized these groups get, the more appealing they will be as collaborators with the state.
Black bloc is a tactic, mostly for street demonstrations. Because the reactionaries wisened up to it and recognize it, it now only works when deployed suddenly and without any tip-off. "Gray" bloc remains effective.
The people that prepare to do black bloc, though... there need to be more of those.
holy shit i found the good reddit comment
That’s a machine gunner’s wet dream right there
The answer to why you need 30 rnd magazines..
It's a good thing that these guys really suck at drill. I've seen other training videos. They're neither good at moving in concert nor in teaching. But it's a really bad thing that they are drilling.
god no wonder bloc is so effective against these numb nuts. you don't need to teach someone how to block with a shield - that's the part they can figure out when their lives depend on it. teaching people how to move together, in concert, while different people carry out different tasks is much, much harder and what actually deserves time.
Also the way they reform their lines having everyone turn their backs and then run around the outside of the line instead of an actual fighting retreat through their own lines which then close ranks as they move back.
At least we know we're up against some of the dumbest nerds on the planet (in addition to the few actually scary ones)
it's how you know they're preparing for encounters without the possibility of lethal force. you can turn your back like that because you know that your opponents are only trying to drive you out, not kill you at any cost. imagine having that luxury when dealing with the cops, or, you know, the people in this video.
they think they're the only ones packing heat.
they think they’re the only ones packing heat
The way that they turn every single tiny act of aggression into a meme to be repeated indefinitely as proof of the left’s violence, the first nazi to get gunned down is going to be an instant martyr and these groups will react accordingly. These big brain bois are still complaining about “the bikelock basher”
I'm deleting my comments cause I was being mean.
I'm sorry about that.
Weird how Reddit removes all this old info one might check on about weed plants and growth problems but nazi shit is cool
wrong century buds
like i know someones gonna say street fightings a thing, bring up europe's far right being good at that. but uhhh they aren't curbstomping more than a handful of people before guns come out this is america and those shields are not bulletproof
its because theyre mimicking their day jobs as police. Theyre being cops.
Yeah, but they're a death cult and acting on behalf of the state legitimizes them. They want power, they don't need to be operators to get that.
Like, both the number of troops and cops that they could get into their ranks and every military manual being available online should be enough to give them way better idea of what they should be doing than whatever this is supposed to be.
A part of me wonders who much of this type of stuff is leaked with a purpose (among many) of making a potentially serious threat seem nonthreatening. Kinda like the KKK using silly names for its ranks and good long while when the online white supremacists were doing the baby speak thing.
This doesn't really matter in broad strokes, it would be eye brow rasing if and only of they were apart of the real military kinda like azov. Ultimately they are too isolated and fringe to gather any popular mass, for both us leftists and reactionarys we are stuck in isolated stagnate political structure that ultimately will need outside intervention to break the empires ability to project and Maintain the internal security state. The real task at hand at the moment is linking broadly popular unionization wave with a left party, I don't think that is happening yet, credit where credit is due we have a labor movement again.
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/09/1079700404/1-in-5-patriot-front-applicants-say-they-have-ties-to-the-military
But I do think that when fascism arrives in full, it won't be these clowns. This just shows how pitiful our troops really are.
Your problry right honestly It will be a mid level non enlisted that gets ideas the issue is the officer core is firmly liberal/succdem this could make for a insane civil war. If it even gets to this point we are a nuclear country other goverments would have to step in to ensure the nukes aren't compromised.
The officer core of the US military is definitely nowhere approaching socdem. The Air Force is basically a Christian nationalist organization. I have a family member who is a now retired high ranking member of the Navy, he is a piece of shit reactionary.
it would be eye brow rasing if and only of they were apart of the real military kinda like azov.
Azov wasn't part of the military before it was. And when they weren't part of the military they were still murdering and crucifying Russians in Donbas.
These kind of right wing groups are dangerous even without state support.
What if all Cops were as lame as these weak chinned dorky Motherfuckers?
