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I love this place - it's my safe refuge on the internet. That said, if someone has valid complaints then it's probably worth hearing them out. We certainly aren't perfect, and while I get the sentiment, I also want this place to avoid becoming too insular.
And like, as somewhat disciplined socialists, our goal probably shouldn't be to push out fledgling leftists who don't understand the culture here yet. Let them vent, let them get dunked on, and if they don't learn, drop the hammer. The mods have always done a pretty good job of dealing with the obvious wreckers as they pop up.
Ah, I get what you mean! I don't think I pay enough attention to usernames to recognize that phenomenon but that's probably on me.
tbf i feel the same way about certain users who loudly boast about how much they hate the CTH podcast to burnish their "left" credentials
I think they, for the most part, realized that they are rich white people and as such were not the right people to be weighing in extensively about them.
When they did weigh in extensively, their takes tended to be sometimes cringe, so that was probably the right call.
full disclosure, I posted an askchapo post a few months back where I asked what people thought about CTH's response to the George Floyd protests. I was generally curious
If they actually wanted to use the CTH podcast to burnish their "left" credentials they would simply forget it existed because they've never listened to it, like me, the one true leftist
i don't get boasting about hating the podcast. Like I think chapo is cringe sometimes and painfully straight, but the show isn't really for me.
it's like having an opinion on a mediocre toothpaste. who the fuck cares? it's toothpaste.
It might not be as good as it was in say 2018 but at this point if you listen to it you know what you're going to get (mostly extended dunking on media dorks and Twitter weirdos). If that's not for you then I don't know why you're either subjecting yourself to torture or whining about things you're not consuming.
my experience with the podcast was just
~2018 ish i decided to see if there were commies on reddit, having been one for over a decade
checked out the mainstream leftist subs
they were shit
they said that r/chapotraphouse was full of scumbags
i thought "that sounds like my people"
i hung around the sub for 6 months
then thought "oh, i should check out the podcast this sub is ostensibly about"
listened to an episode
it was shit
thought "oh, it might just be a bad episode"
asked for what the best episode was
listened to that one
"huh, these people are insufferable yanks, i'm not going to listen again"
and that's where i am nowalso they make more in a month than i do in a year, so fuck 'em
It still has its moments. Although I read a great point about the podcast in how it's really just a spicier Daily Show, now that the main thrust seems to be covering the latest spoofs and goofs in Washington
Ban yourself and everyone around you :matt-jokerfied:
More seriously, you'd probably be doing them a favor
These are the people you're supposed to trick into looking at ppb, that's what they're there for
we need synthesis. we need a pig with severe gangrene shitting on its own balls
Showing gore, which could trigger or traumatize people, is a lot more malicious than dismissing them with a picture of a pig shitting.
it’s fine if they’re a transphobe, but also I’m exaggerating
i think it's good that we can currently whinge about mod actions without having to do the star citizen culty preface thing
if all their comments are about how they hate the place, then yeah, help them to kick the habit of coming hereThe lessons of the pronoun wars in the early days of Chapo.chat was that banning people who are assholes and reactionaries is a good thing and should be welcomed
Yeah, if the mods don't already do that they should. I don't want to deal with some miserable toxic asshole.
If you have someone obsessed with complaining to everyone at a bar about that bar, they get tossed out by the bouncer lol
That's how social spaces work. If you don't do that, everyone else just leaves and then it's just the miserable asshole sitting in an abandoned bar.
New account with 34 comments, they’re probs one of the people you’re mentioning lol
naw, there's a pattern. if a brand new account shows up and starts complaining about mods and ban policies, they're obviously just trying to start shit.
if they somehow really are new, then they should still shut up about how the site is run and get an idea for the vibes here first.
idk this realy isn't that difficult of a topic or concept lol
lol okay. disengaging now, please don’t reply to me again.
You’re not exactly a typical new account, dude. When you get like this, you have one of the most distinctive posting styles I’ve ever seen.
Does it matter? There's nothing stopping them from making a new account
Which would be fine and dandy except the mods take account age into extreme consideration and will ban new users for very slight grievances while allowing older accounts to tell you things like "you should be killed" over things which absolutely do not merit that (transphobes/etc get the wall obviously, that kind of bigotry merits that kind of response) while simply punishing them with comment removal and any criticism of these kinds of decisions will typically also result in a ban accusing you of either misinformation or being a wrecker or some other non-respondant accusation which tbh Isn't Cool and now you've got an even younger new account more vulnerable to this which is even less cool
Remember when people were allowed to publically debate moderator policy, bans, etc?
It was a disaster. This place has been running much more smoothly since the mods banned dissent. Really makes you think :soviet-hmm:
Having the user union didn’t help with that anyway since it’s not like the mods could be impeached or anything. Some of the old mods were fucking AWFUL, and for all I know know they’re still here, but they poison the site much less because they aren’t getting into massive public fights with the users now.
Which would be fine and dandy except the mods take account age into extreme consideration and will ban new users for very slight grievances while allowing older accounts to tell you things like “you should be killed” over things which absolutely do not merit that (transphobes/etc get the wall obviously, that kind of bigotry merits that kind of response) while simply punishing them with comment removal and any criticism of these kinds of decisions will typically also result in a ban accusing you of either misinformation or being a wrecker or some other non-respondant accusation which tbh Isn’t Cool and now you’ve got an even younger new account more vulnerable to this which is even less cool
this single run on sentence is like malding poetry, it rhymes :george-lucas:
if you think what I described is good idk guess we'll see if/when the leopards bite your face and you get banned or told to die or whatever for disagreeing with a holy 2020 account Mx. 2022 :vivian-shrug:
given how you communicate, pretty sure the problem wasn't that you disagreed with an old head lol
Mx. 2022
omg thank you for the progressive title usage while rageposting
"You talk annoying lol" uh okay
omg thank you for the progressive title usage while rageposting
Fuck me for attempting to respect your neopronouns am i rite
Incredible how these new accounts always seem to have these really strong opinions about site culture
consider the phenomenon of lurking for months / possibly even years until the fateful day you see a post so unfathomably stupid you simply have to sign up and comment on it
why would anyone ever post mod criticism on an alt on a website where even the mildest and well-reasoned criticism of mod action will result in a ban and where account age gets taken into consideration making holding onto a main desirable (ironically in conflict with the "for op-sec make new accounts all the time!" folk)
I mean I can't think of a reason
If you need to save certain takes for alt accounts for fear of getting banned, they're probably shit takes
"mods taking account age into consideration is kind of shit" isn't really a shit take but I guess with a 2021 account you don't have to worry about that as much, you could probably tell me I should be killed and publicly request a ban for yourself and be fine
which is kind of a problem in conflict with "just make a new account who cares" being an appropriate take
If you need to save certain takes for alt accounts for fear of getting banned, they’re probably shit takes
Except in at least most of those cases it is literally some 4chanite raider or a long-time user recently banned for something serious making alts that's getting caught. Like I browse by new and often see it happen in real time, where a brand new account starts posting stuff that's a bit inflammatory and a little sus, then you look at their comments and they're trying to be a caricature made up by someone on 4chan, with speech littered with 4chanisms because they're so immersed in that environment that they don't know how to code switch out of it. And then a mod spots them and they're banned within minutes, just as the account is starting to scream slurs at people.
lmao this post was like catnip for a bunch of the miserable shitfucks
o7 for the free entertainment we're getting from these freaks
:antelope-popcorn:
Just made a brand new account. Gonna use as normal for a week and check back in to see if I get banned.
Treated as wreckers by us lowly posters isn't the same as treated as wreckers by mods.
So, as a general group immune response, I think posters get to :fry: suspicious posts.
very hurt and disappointed the users of hexbear have branded me “sus”. I am only asking for their social security number and home address
the left truly eats their own
:desolate:
Ya it was a lazy shitpost (shitcomment?) and was more taking a dig at myself and everyone here in general but not actually being serious. Like in my head Im saying I agree while prolly being guilty of it myself at some point as well as others who may be agreeing. Idk I didnt put much thought in to it but TLDR I didnt mean to imply youre a hypocrite or anything.
