I only voice trained enough for it to sound androgynous and freak people out. A very funny bit
while I don't think trans women should need to voice train, this is actually a just-for-fun transition goal of mine! did you have a professional voice coach, or are there some resources you used?
You know TransVoiceLessons on youtube, I tried desperately to overcome my autism and understand which parts of my throat she is talking about. I think I have the basic idea of it down at least, I can make funny vocalisations c:
TransVoiceLessons
she's so cool, I need to actually train instead of just watching her videos some day.
I tried desperately to overcome my autism and understand which parts of my throat she is talking about.
oh my god this is such a mood. I always have either direct control of a body part and no ability to use muscle memory, or I am incapable of finding the specific muscles I'm supposed to be using because that function of my body is so autonomous.
She's kinda based, I like her albums too, cool stuff.
I know right?? I can do various things with my larynx sometimes but I have very poor control over it honestly, it's hard
I met her once on her discord and was a bit disappointed just because she went off on a whole assimilationist rhetoric with me and everyone in the call, ugh Never meet our heros, kill ya idols
NOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK, I rescind my statement, re-education time. I hate this, never meet ya heroes indeed
honestly super mad that I got made fun of so much for practicing different voices as a kid that I stopped, imagine if I'd kept that vocal flexibility through to now and could just slip into masculine, feminine, or androgynous voice at will.
It's genuinely fun, I recommend it! The looks of bewilderment never get old
Almost of of my grill cis friends and grill trans friends and a couple of my boi fronds sound androgynous and I’m BOUT IT
yeah... when I was more actively doing it I started noticing how many people put on their voices in dah to day lives. being able to just speak as yourself is great actually. everything is performative bullshit.
seriously I started transitioning seven years ago, I look, dress, and sound the same, and as long as i'm at home with my partner I am extremely comfy with myself. it's other people who can't get it.
I tricked myself into doing voice training mostly by teaching myself to sing, it is funny to be able to hit really high notes at least, what a party trick, if I went to parties.
I do detest my speaking voice though, internationalised bullshit, oh yeah. the voice I use when I speak to dogs is alright though.
sorry i'm a real emotional wordy bug today, weird week, weird life.
I've had a weird month. A crystal girl told me it was the eclipse coming, and I'm really hoping she's right
here's an astrology calendar if you're interested, you can synch it with a digital calendar that uses .iCal files, google and etc
idealist? yes, fun? also yes
https://cantonbecker.com/astronomy-calendar
I'm a cis man :grillman: and I trained my voice just because I didn't like it and now everyone constantly tells me how great my voice is
So ladies, the lesson here is you just need to develop a good deep baritone and people will love you
So ladies, the lesson here is you just need to develop a good deep baritone and people will love you
I know you mean well, but Im struggling to understand how this would apply outside of your particular circumstance.
I was joking, because usually mtf voice training does the opposite, ergo my stupid advice literally does not apply outside of my particular circumstance
If it offends i can remove it
No worries. Its on me for not noticing the obvious sarcasm. XD
tbf the idea of a petite traditionally pretty trans girl opening her mouth and revealing a Barry White voice sounds awesome too
The pressure for women to sound like high pitched babies is real and sucks
i dont think the voice I want is a “high pitched baby”. that feels mean
Sorry. I was more implying that that's what society pressures women to sound like, not that that's what people actually sound like. I was having a jab at the unrealistic standards women face.
I read an interesting article the other day that women's voices have trended significantly lower in the last decades because people perceive a deeper voice to be more authoritative.
https://thewalrus.ca/why-do-we-have-such-a-problem-with-the-way-women-speak/
In the workplace, yes. Outside of work it's often considered "old sounding and unattractive"
I have literally been told by a dude that only old women don't have high voices
Might be worth mentioning for people who want an example: Look up “fundie baby voice”. Everyone’s voice has an aspect of socialization, but there’s a big difference between a natural-sounding feminine speaking voice and the way that many evangelical women are socialized into speaking. It’s a form of social control that limits the range of emotional expression. And like most extremist Christian norms, there are softer versions of these expectations which are much more widespread in western societies.
It would be cool to have the ability to from a high pitched "girly" voice to a very deep "manly" voice and fuck around with people but I'm still too lazy to train
Based, that would be so fun. I kinda want to do that hahaha
This is the only thing I have to thank League of Legends for like ten years ago: giving me hours and hours of time to practice in Skype calls
Cis people are very lobotomized when it comes to anything gender related
Not even just from the perspective that voice training is hard, but some trans people don't even have that much vocal dysphoria and don't want to change their voice that much anyway. Loving and finding comfort in your voice the way it is would be equally as valid as despising it and wanting to change it, and I say this as someone who definitely wants to change it.
on the one hand, I don't want to voice train because I'm morally opposed to the need to voice train, societally.
on the other, girl voices pretty.
on my secret third hand, it's kinda a roller coaster when I get gendered correctly (or at least misgendered as a woman rather than a man, which is its whole own thing), then open my mouth to respond to someone, and they fall over themselves trying to correct what they thought was misgendering earlier.
Sorry, but you gotta have at least 3 silly voices before we can be friends. Cis people included
I can do a pretty good feminine voice after years of slacking on voice training, but since it's not my default voice it actually takes effort and it feels so forced to me. It literally makes me feel like being a voice actor. But the only reason I do it is so I don't have to instantly out myself as trans to everyone around me when speaking in public. I hate it so much.no, not at all! that definitely wasn't my intention here. i'm voice training right now, and i just hate how if i fail at it i will without fail be misgendered by someone no matter how much effort i put into the rest of my presentation. voice training isn't bad, but the pressure by cis people to do it is
Yeah that’s the impression I got from the post, I guess idk I was worried there was an implication but that’s what happens since I’m autistic (can’t read implications as well) and paranoid (assume implications are there)
I don't think anyone should feel weird for wanting or pursuing a different voice. Whether you're trans or cis. It's totally valid. It just sucks when society expects trans people to change their voice in order to be more accepted as their gender, and when trans people as a result of that feel pressured to do so.
It’s rough. It takes a lot of time and effort to get from A to B. It took me about 7 or 8 months to get from male to female voice. Granted this is through me simply never using my old voice ever again after learning the most basic techniques of voice training. Kinda forced the matter.
Also, considering the overall opinion here, I actually feel shamed on occasion for actually doing it and I really hate it.
that definitely wasn't my intention here. i'm voice training right now, and i just hate how if i fail at it i will without fail be misgendered by someone no matter how much effort i put into the rest of my presentation. voice training isn't bad, but the pressure by cis people to do it is
It’s not you but the overall vibe. I used to give advice on it, but I kinda just keep to myself nowadays in regards to it.
I just learned last night that hrt can make your mfing hands smaller but giving me a voice that isn't disgusting is too much to ask for? :owl-pissed:
hrt can make your mfing hands smaller
Can confirm, I didn't keep detailed records or anything but I did have a ring that went from being a snug fit on my ring finger to being loose on my thumb, and my hands noticeably look different.
feet too! all my shoes are too big now, thanks HRT.
on the upside, I can actually find women's shoes and heels in my size now, I guess (I've found it a lot easier to find women's 13 than women's 14, no clue why that's the cutoff though).
I will also say I think it is very cool that there at least seems to be some normalization effort happening (for as bad as the reaction is getting at the same time…you know how it goes). We just watched the Rocko’s Modern Life netflix special that released a few years ago and there is a trans character who has a whole acceptance arc and everything that is done very respectfully, and her voice is the same as it was during the original run when the character was pre-transition.
No one in the show is bothered or draws any attention to it at all. It’s nice. I just wish it were that simple IRL. Maybe some day.
