The stock market has no problems and line go up forever.

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The market is panicking because this month's core CPI number is almost exactly the same value it was in December when the federal reserve was just starting to raise interest rates. There was a lot of worry about recession, then gas prices came down and markets seem to have decided the federal reserve had threaded the needle, but there's no improvement at all and why did anyone think there was? Lowering the interest rates to zero for 10 years, after capitalism died in 2008, never caused inflation in the first place so why would raising them now lower inflation?

    So now the market is thinking the federal reserve is going to keep raising interest rates, and they probably will because they apparently believe they have the power to raise and lower inflation and investment by changing short term interest rates slightly.

    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Well, they probably will decrease inflation, by crashing the economy. So they can't decrease inflation per se, but they can crash the underlying economy and the huge reduction in demand decreases inflation. And they probably know it & want it. Because it will be good for big corporations in multiple ways;

      • more desperate labor force
      • big corporations will still be able to get cheap loans (who wouldn't give loans to Walmart for example), so they will be able to buy their smaller competition
      • the Fed might crash the economy by raising interest rates while restarting QE, a money-printing program that is specifically targeted to help only the big banks and big corporations
      • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        And if inflation is ultimately caused by shortages due to lack of investment, what happens when the recession/depression ends? Inflation resumes. I'm starting to wonder if the rate of profit is so low now that inflation (fake profits) will be more or less continual as long as capitalism remains dominant. They fixed it by gutting the new deal in the 70s but there's not a lot left to gut now.

        • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          We have high (legal, financial and logistical) barriers to entry for new competition under a capitalist system and the entire economy is dominated by large corporations that are able to raise prices at will? At the same time the government is giving even more money to big corporations and refuses to build even basic state-owned infrastructure to at least alleviate the stranglehold of the big corporations on the entire system, much less talk about nationalization??

          Hello, latestagecapitalism!

          • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Lenin called imperialism "moribund capitalism." Why? Because imperialism carries the contradictions of capitalism to their last bounds, to the extreme limit, beyond which revolution begins.

        • Farman [any]
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          2 years ago

          Yhea the rate of profit must be near 0 in the developed world. Otherwise you wouldnt have ovious scams like musk or bitcoin making so much money.

    • OperationOgre [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I don't know what else to take away from this, but the rising interest rates seem like a nail in the coffin of my chance to own a home. Chances were slim because of how crazy expensive homes are, but add a 5% mortgage on top and it's impossible

      • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Affordable housing is a historical aberration that boomers took for granted and ruined.

        • cogito_ergo_cum [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I looked at a graph of housing prices in my town, and it turns out they've gone up by around 1000% in 3 decades. I know someone who bought a house in the 70s for less than $10k which is now worth over a million. That's some serious wealth concentration.

          Future generations will be strictly divided between failchildren and everyone else (who will never be able to afford a home)

      • Owl [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Home prices will fall because nobody else has access to cheap mortgages anymore either.

  • AmericaDelendeEst [any]
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    2 years ago

    my apes are crashing and you laugh?? :bawllin-sad:

    my slurps are worthless, and this is funny?? :shrek-pixel-despair:

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm so glad we don't tie anything important like employment or retirement to the stock market.

  • solaranus
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    1 year ago

    deleted by creator

  • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Under capitalism, markets work efficiently through the guidance of the invisible hand and rational consumers

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Pension plans are virtually non-existent in the private sector in the US, unless you happen to work at one of the few union shops in the country. State and federal jobs still have them.

  • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    It's just a correction bro, this time it will surely stay up bro, please believe me dude, just invest in my scam stocks, i'm begging you

  • seas_surround [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It feels like I've seen a similar post with a new historic low like 10 times over the past year

    • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Whaaaaattt no impossible the free market wouldn't do that...