Whatever original expression, message, or purpose Burning Man used to have
would be restored by burning the entire festival to the ground.
Burners give me headache. On one hand they state all kind of cool radical stuff... On the other it's only surface deep and it's mostly libs looking to get high and have sex -parties... Which... More power to you but drop the holier than thou attitude you're not doing anything special.
Atari hired Steve Jobs for the night shift to code a video game. Jobs couldn't code shit so he tricked his friend Wozniak into creating a game called Breakout in 2 days by promising to split the pay. The pay was split when they turned in the protoype.
What Jobs didn't tell Wozniak was there was a bonus for getting the game done in less than 2 weeks (or some arbitrary amount of short time). The bonus was like $5k in 2022 dollars.
Jobs disappeared to Oregon for a month, blew all his money on drugs, tripped balls, and picked apples.
During his short tenure at Atari, Jobs was given the night shift (as I mentioned earlier) because he refused to shower. The night shift consisted of one person: Steve Jobs. Before Jobs, there was no night shift.
I used to be friends with a guy who seemingly had the same level of aversion to bathing as Steve Jobs and he always smelled like shit. Dude would wear work boots for days at a time and when he actually took them off would get emphatic pleas to put them back on. He was also banned from multiple houses because he left a lingering stench for days.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/28/t-magazine/silicon-valley-google-apple-1960s-architecture.html
wait is the bit that you're RPing as jack "@jack" dorsey, famous new age hippie tech ceo freak?
He was not a hippie back in the day. None of these people were except for Jobs. What I'm saying is these tech freaks have taken on hippie affectations after becoming fabulously wealthy, presumably to assuage their guilt. That's very different from hippies becoming tech bros.
I also recommend looking into the history of the Whole Earth Catalog and the fiction of Douglas Coupland
Yes, exactly. I think burning man encompasses a lot of the ideology that drives/created tech CEOs. i.e. the tenet of radical self-reliance and how you're responsible for yourself. Or how there is a "community", but it is very shallow. Like it reeks of libertarianism wrapped by a feel good rhetoric
the thing where one of the rules is there's no commercial activity except you have to buy a ticket is hilarious. like the first four were free and then they started charging and it went up a little bit every year and now it costs $225 minimum to be "free" for 9 days. raw, unfiltered, Capitalist Realism.
Oh, not just that. They have "commercial activity" in the form of barter of one sort or another
I know a guy who took like two deserted ebikes this year on his way out of the festival. I’ll have to reiterate to him that he did nothing wrong by salvaging.
Just casually leaving behind my $1000+ ebike because I'm done with it.
i know a rich dude in los angeles that hates cleaning bongs so he'll just throw away an expensive ass 200-500 dollar bong and buy a new one rather than clean them.
Damn if he's blowing that much on them it would be cheaper and honestly less effort to do a lazy cleaning and just let it soak for a day or two in a bucket filled with rubbing alcohol
He just hates cleaning them at all and he’s like 1% rich so he just throws them out. I took one of them with me that was like 3 feet long last time I was out there
step 1: ask him if you can be paid to take his trash out for him
It's been a bourgie tourist thing/instagram influencer selfie fest for like a decade. Also I doubt that was ever really enforced, just in the early days it was just the artsy actual anarchist types that used to show up.
The only positive is that it makes the Bay Area a fractionally more pleasant place for the week that all the tech workers go to the desert
That's a pretty good book:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rapture_of_the_Nerds
For every square foot your campground takes up, you have to put a ticket with your name on it into a pile, and whoever’s name randomly gets chosen at the end is immolated
I went to Burning Man once. I had a great time, and it was an enriching experience.
I agree with you, 100%.
having never gone there it seems like the point of the event is to do a lot of drugs, be half naked, poop in peoples' tents, and leave a bunch of trash everywhere
Which is mostly fine but huffing your own farts while doing so is really aggravating.
So, what's the deal with burning man camp followers? Cause if I lived near there I would be raiding them for all that it's worth. Maybe killing and eating elon musk as performance art there.
They have to have real good security right? I know the cops patroll it to a limited extent
Is there any reason someone can't just rent a uhaul and nab like 200 bikes to give away?
The playa dust can do a number on them, so they end up being a maintenance hassle. People recommend bringing beater bikes that you can just (evidently) leave there.
Probably not, it’s just an extremely long drive from the nearest city with only a single way in. Bureau of Land Management rangers are probably doing similar, they tend to be pretty chill.
originally it was because they wanted to party harder than any city would let them
People do that plenty of times in open fields, beaches, forests. It's not great as it disturbs the local wildlife and still leaves plenty of trace even with good policy, but it's like 100x better than the fucking desert. Just party near a lake. It's fine.
It looks like the salt flats are limited to species wich live as eggs until they flood. So keep the footprint small and it's not that bad?
Idk
It used to be on a beach or something like 30 or 40 years ago. As it got bigger they kept having to move it to more and more remote places to accomodate everyone. Eventually they decided to host it in hell.
Pretty darn sure these are cleaned up by the org. They’ve got people out there a month and a half early setting up all the trash fences and infrastructure for the actual festival. I’d be shocked if they just went ‘eh’ and left everything out there.
It’s also BLM land so I’m sure the contract stipulates they’ve gotta clean everything up.
i'd just like to point out to anyone confused that BLM there means Bureau of Land Management, referring to areas the federal government manages, like conservation areas and big mineral deposits. Burning Man is held in the Black Rock Desert Wilderness, a nature preserve in Nevada.
So these hippy weirdos are shitting up a nature preserve? Great.
want to hate this shit even more? tickets to this thing are $425 and the average cost of attendance is around $2400 per head when considering things like travel and camping supplies. Not to mention a lot of people go there in an RV. The closest airport is a two-hour drive away, but a lot of attendees drive in from San Fransisco, which is a 6 hour drive.
Billionaires also regularly attend, usually in incredibly fancy RVs with stuff like jacuzzis or will simply fly a private jet there. In 2017 a bunch of Google employees shipped a box of lobsters to event. An art instillation at the 2007 burning man involved exploding 900 gallons of jet fuel into a huge mushroom cloud, which somehow was meant to protest over-reliance on oil. Every burning man event leaves hundreds of thousands of plastic water bottles littering the area.
The 2022 Burning Man had a sculpture that read "We are the Climate Problem" that has to be some kind of sick ironic joke. 87% of burning man attendees are white.
free bikes :carlin-pog: can one hypothetically rent a truck and take a dozen of these?
Would anyone who is an expert in ordinance tell us what exactly would happen if a cruise missile was dropped on burning man?
