• CrookedSerpent [she/her]
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    2 years ago
    1. Anal cavity searches before every chess match
    2. Check for mirrors on the ceiling so Neiman can't see magnus's moves
    3. Remake any games Magnus losses that aren't against people he personally likes

    There I have fixed chess! :D

  • KasDapital [any]
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    2 years ago

    Have them play naked so we can be sure there's no funny business

  • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    cheating in chess is a big deal and an existential threat to the game

    lol, lmao even. fucking nerd. a milennia old game set to be extinguished by the legions of buttplugged youths of cheaterville :rat-salute-2:

    • Mike_Penis [any]
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      2 years ago

      For 99.99% of that time engines stronger than humans that you can put on your phone didn't exist.

  • dead [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The letter is the first statement from Magnus that has directly accused Hans of cheating in the 2022 Sinquefield Cup. All of the previous statements by Magnus have been vague references to cheating. In this letter, Magnus just outright says that he believe Hans cheated against him.

    • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Which means he has to have some form of evidence then, right? Because that would be a fat lawsuit if not

      • Merkin_Muffley [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        So to steal from some redditor which put on their totally legitimate lawyer hat.

        The line of "I believe that Niemann has cheated more...." apparently won't be too much of an issue in any defamation case since Carlsen is stating it as an opinion, not as a fact.

        This apparently also gives away that Carlsen has no real proof of Niemann's over the board cheating because if he did he'd 100% be the kind of person to dare Niemann to take this to court by calling him a cheater without any of this song and dance, just so he could drag Niemann's reputation through the dirt once more but now in a high profile court case which Carlsen would also likely win if his proof was worth listening to.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    How do you even cheat in chess

    "Hey why do you suddenly have 5 queens" or do you like replace the pieces with dynamite when the other guy ain't looking

        • WideningGyro [any]
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          2 years ago

          Lol, imagine a soccer team crying about cheating in the media after their opponents saw leaked video of them running laps or some shit

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            2 years ago

            This literally does happen in physical sports lol, any kind of strategy prep can be leaked and prepared for and teams will try and spy or scour social media to get an advantage.

            Idk why people on here like literally stop using their brains just to be able to dunk on fucking chess lmao.

            • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              This literally does happen in physical sports lol, any kind of strategy prep can be leaked and prepared for and teams will try and spy or scour social media to get an advantage.

              yeah and i'd dunk on them for calling it cheating too

          • chair [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            This happened to Bielsa I think (the only based football manager), he responded by calling a press conference where he explained that team's weaknesses in detail

        • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          chess is so goddamn analyzed at this point that grandmasters are essentially academics of chess that prepare for certain sequences of moves to occur and their response in advance.

        • counsel [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Chess at this point isn't about the pieces. It's a mind game between the two players.

          You can't make the "best" move any more because computers know them all and the grandmasters prepare ahead of time with canned responses. If you make the best moves available, you'll lose or draw. Magnus' great talent is making suboptimal moves that go out of the other man's preparation and force him to actually play chess instead of rattle off a list of moves. Once he's forced out of his line, Magnus wins.

          Thus knowing what the other player's prep is is decisive, as all you have to do is force him out of his prepared lines and into unfamiliar territory, where you have prepared your own lines.

            • CyberSyndicalist [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              chess has been used as a cultural symbol of intelligence for so long that people will continue to play it in an attempt to look smart regardless of how boring or un-challenging the game itself becomes.

        • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          High level chess is less two people sitting at a table over some ivory pieces and more two sports teams spending weeks watching their opponents' replays while trying to figure out what strategies they're likely to use and coming up with counters.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Or a computer just owning them without any of that prep. :jetstream-troll:

    • hypercube [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      it was pretty suspicious that there would not only happen to be a delicious cake to the side of the table to distract Magnus, but also a grand piano hanging from a thread above it

    • ToastGhost [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      get your moves from a chessbot, basically how you would cheat on a test in school

  • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Looking forward to hinged takes on this from the eminently normal people on hexbear.net

    Death to America

    • ElGosso [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I admit I don't know anything about either of these people except what I've seen in this drama

      One dude who signs his letters "world chess champion" ragequit a game and called the other guy a cheater with no evidence :shrug-outta-hecks: I spent enough time in ranked LoL to have opinions about people who do stuff like that

      • dead [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        "World Chess Champion" is an official title given to the most recent winner of the World Chess Championship, hosted once every 2 years. Since 2013, Magnus has won the World Chess Championship for the 5 times consecutively.

        • Saint [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          What do you mean by official? What would be an unofficial title?

          • dead [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            This is a list of people who are considered to be World Chess Champions.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship#World_champions

      • chair [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The other guy has admitted to cheating 'but only the two times I got caught guys', at which point the website he plays on (with respectable anti cheat) said he's cheated way more.

        Multiple grandmasters are suspicious, upon hearing he'd been added to the tournament the #2 in world also requested stronger security measures.

  • JoannaNewsom [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hmmm, cheating was only an ‘existential threat to the game’ after he got crushed by Hans :thinkin-lenin:

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Chess is bad because billionaire Rex Sinquefield, who the cup is named for, is spending ungodly amounts of money on 2 things:

    1.) Chess

    2.) Trying to turn Missouri into AnCapistan. Dude is very ideologically committed to libertarianism and funds a lobby group / "think tank" called the Show Me Institute to that end.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Epic G!mers comparing their competitive slop to le chess is increasingly less absurd to me as time goes on. :heated-gamer-moment:

    • Cromalin [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      i respect esports more than chess tbh. more skill involved

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        You are kidding me right? You need to play chess from the age of 10 to have a chance of becoming the #1 player in the world. And it will take at least 15 years before you get there.

        If you take any e-sports as a job and play 8h-12h a day you can be a top pro within 2 years, I've seen multiple e-sports pros say the same thing e.g Dota 2.

        • Cromalin [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          i was in fact kidding. i could see an argument that esports involve less pure memorization and more in the moment skill, though i think that's just a different kind of skill