https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/y69cdd/head_of_eu_diplomacy_josep_borrell_europe_is_a/

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    While Borrell's tone is obviously tonedeaf and borderline imperialist, I am glad that the tide seems to be changing on this one. Mainstream left and right seem to agree now that our free, social and prosperous European way of life is to be cherished.

    Like calling Hitler a "borderline anti-semite".

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      2 years ago

      We're only about 10 years away before it's socially acceptable to compliment Hitler

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Hitler will never be cool, because he was a loser.

        What Euro-Heads are looking for is an imperialist who knows how to clock a few big Ws.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Jungles are cool and good and without them we'd all die choking. I would personally torch every garden on Earth if it'd bring back even one jungle.

  • Sasuke [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yup. This is immediately what jumped out to me. I ultimately have no issue with his core point but the language has some seriously colonial undertones.

    800+ upvotes

    :kind-vladimir-ilyich:

    • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Look, I love imperialism and colonialism as policy. I just don’t like when we properly describe what we are doing

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      2 months ago

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  • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Another propaganda win for Mr Putin. Damn, they really write headline themselves huh. The Russian don’t need to do anything to convince the rest of the word

          • emizeko [they/them]
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            2 years ago
            you are probably right

            (was being sarcastic with the smooth because of the crude dogwhistle, just in case you thought I was sincere)

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      All Russia has to do to look good internationally is to stand in the corner and not be the EU.

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Global South: Still looted, still blamed

      Liberals: Scratched

      Open Fascists: Getting elected to highest office

      Oh yeah, it's Westoid time :eu-cool:

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    2 years ago

    Nuke Europe. just destroy it all, not worth saving. RIP classical monuments, but your kids need to die.

  • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Same chauvinistic dipshits in the comments will have the raw fucking nerve to speak their piece on China's inroads with African nations, as if those "savages" don't know what's best for them by drifting from the same people who speak of them with such condescension if not outright contempt.

    The rise of multipolarity cannot come sooner. It's only been 30 years and can already see the fate of a world at the mercy of the West.

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    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      The rise of multipolarity cannot come sooner.

      Honestly not excited about multipolarity. I'd much prefer we cut to the chase and let Beijing take the lead.

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        If only it were that simple. But I’d much prefer the “arrangement” of the world before the 80s when socialist and national liberation movements could have some wiggle room to succeed and survive. It’s no coincidence that Yugoslavia, a “non-aligned” country, got the screws put on it as the Soviets declined and eventually fell.

        “Oh? You want to squeeze our country into submission by blocking us off from your trade? No problem. I’ll be happy to take my resources and goods elsewhere. I’m sure there are some takers in Beijing, Moscow or (inshallah) New Delhi.”

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          I mean, Yugoslavia collapsed because the ethnic tensions were ratcheted up to a fever pitch once Tito wasn't around as a trusted good-faith actor to broker between sides. And it was hardly the only country to try "play both ends against the middle" on the world stage, to disastrous results. Half the Middle East/Mediterranean, from Iraq to Libya, got caught in the crunch when the USSR fell. Meanwhile, Israel and the Saudis and S. Korea made out like bandits simply by being on the winning side.

          If these regional dictatorships get to persist into a US/China bipolar world, I don't really consider that a point favor of multipolarity persisting.

          • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It's much more complicated than that, even if ethnic tensions were underlying it. To oversimplify a bit, Yugoslavia's economy was reliant on loans taken from the IMF to sustain its "Market Socialist" model. When the USSR declined in power, the West saw fit to tighten the screws on any other socialist experiment, aligned or not. Naturally, as they held the IMF, they utilized it (via increased interest) to drive Yugoslavia into the situation it found itself in, in 1992.

            If these regional dictatorships get to persist into a US/China bipolar world, I don’t really consider that a point favor of multipolarity persisting.

            The countries that could survive could be anything from "regional dictatorships" to actual national liberation movements, with perhaps a chance of them being socialist. Even in the former case, it still denies the Imperial Core the resources and strategic staging area of the nation in question. To quote Stalin:

            The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism; whereas the struggle waged by such "desperate" democrats and "Socialists," "revolutionaries" and republicans as, for example, Kerensky and Tsereteli, Renaudel and Scheidemann, Chernov and Dan, Henderson and Clynes, during the imperialist war was a reactionary struggle, for its results was the embellishment, the strengthening, the victory, of imperialism.

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              2 years ago

              Idk, man. That sounds like how you end up with guys like Nicolae Ceaușescu and Khrushchev running the show.

              Also, didn't Stalin and Tito have a falling out precisely because Tito wanted neutrality during the Cold War?

              • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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                2 years ago

                1950s were much preferable in terms of revolutionary prospects than today, I'll say that much.

                And Tito broke with Stalin for a variety of factors. The tear began when Stalin refused to back the Greek communists in their civil war.

  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This last year or so has really laid bare just how thoroughly white supremacist the average European is. I hope it's been radicalizing for people who hadn't already seen past the veil.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      The disintegration of the EU project has been eye opening simply because of how much intra-European bigotry has undermined western neoliberalism.

      When Slavs aren't white enough for you, the very idea that African out Asian or American or Pacific cultures could enjoy membership in this globalist project is laid out as a farce.

      Whatever may be said of the US, Russia, or China, they have a successful national project happening. Europe is a dozen rats in a bag.