• hahafuck [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Ukrainians, of course, being a lost tribe of anglo-saxons who migrated down the Volga

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      The Ukrainian's have the strong forward brow of Achilles, the smooth temples of King Zolomon, the blue eyes of Odysseus and the Gallic Pride of Vercingetorix

      When they say the magic word AZOV, they get the power of forfty kajillion dollars

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Aryan was a term from a theory that early European settlers may have come from the Indus valley based on linguistic similarities.

        Hitler was once again being very weird and stupid when he started talking about aryans and he only picked blond hair and blue eyes as he thought that those traits were the opposite of Jewish

    • regul [any]
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      2 years ago

      The Kievan Rus kinda had some viking lineage.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I have been informed by very earnest people who should be taken seriously that akshually Moscow was founded by Ukrainians 9,000 years ago and Russia doesn't even mean Russians and Russians actually come from Mordor and share no genetic information with the glorious, radiant Galacian.

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    ????

    wasn't the old ridiculous stereotype that russians were deadpan all the time?

    "о нет, my arm fell off... at least it wasn't my leg" kinda thing

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      racists get to make up their own rules as they go as they get to decide the manner in which they are racist.

    • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I think it's one of those "believe 2 contradictory stereotypes at the same time" situations. Russians are all stoic fatalists and they are also all emotional wrecks.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The stoic/wreck ration can be measured by their current alcohol blood content.

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It's wild how these people will fall into tirades about the slavic brainpan predisposing the Russians to mass murder on one day and then assure everybody that we should prefer Ukrainian refugees over Syrians because they are so similar to us.

    • dog [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      whiteness has always been a poorly defined concept malleable enough to fulfill whatever the current prevailing political needs are of those who wield it

      • kristina [she/her]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        reminder that the irish, the pastiest motherfuckers alive, were considered inferior for centuries

          • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Fun fact: per DNA evidence at archeological sites, at least some peoples of Ireland several thousand years ago did have dark skin. And at least sometimes, blue eyes.

            Doesn't make the line you're mentioning less dumb and racist, I just think it's interesting that they could be slightly right about a part that really just reveals holocene humanity was more interesting and varied than we usually think.

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              That's not surprising at all Europe has a long maritime history and is next to both Africa and the middle east.

              • Farman [any]
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                2 years ago

                Everyone was dark skinned 10k years ago. Ligth skin is an adaptation to the convination of a vitamin poor diet and low uv radiation. If your population lives way up north but have a good diet like eskimos or mongols or siberians you are not as white. If your population has a shity diet but live further south you are not as white.

                • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  I think the general consensus is that light skin evolved a few times and some of those times were at least 20-30k years ago. There were folks with different amounts of melanin running around for a long time.

                  • Farman [any]
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                    2 years ago

                    Oviously the first instances of those genes are cery old. Maybe even neanderthal old. But selection preassure for them to become dominant in a population is due to vitamin d deficieny in pregnancy. And that is mostly an agriculturalist thing. But if there is enough sunligth its not as bad. That explains the north south gradient in skintones as well as darker skinned huntergatherers in high latitudes. And that diserent version of the gene were selectd in west and east asia.

                    • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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                      2 years ago

                      Those are definitely reasonable explanations, especially since you do get more vitamin D w/ less sun the lighter your skin is - and there are trade-offs when you get a lot of sun with light skin. Though the story could also be more complex or even seemingly random (or just historically contingent), also having to do with how people migrated, how big their populations got, etc etc.

            • Farman [any]
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              2 years ago

              All people on both british islands are decendants of king mil of galicia(spain). That is were the mame morarity comes from

              • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Well, they all at least claim to have royal blood, lol.

                The Irish in particular have stories about people from Spain coming over hundreds of years ago, part of the other legend around being Black Irish (in this case, meaning darker hair and brown eyes but still light skin).

                • Farman [any]
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                  2 years ago

                  The original population had to come from europe. But continental europe was to coold except for a few areas. Spain was the closest to the british islands. And so it is likley they went from there. The legend is probably originated in aome pun as such things often are but in this case turned out correct. If mil lived at the end of the last ice age

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              The Scottish != the Irish

              there were no such theories about the Scottish as the Scottish were just considered British and thus equals to the English and Welsh

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Just the idea that Ukraine is somehow in Europe is still shocking to me.

        • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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          2 years ago

          It's weird to me Russia isn't considered at least partially European. Like eastern Russia is definitely in Asia but you can't tell me they don't have way more cultural and linguistic ties to Europe than Asia. The line is also stupid and not super geographic.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The rational westerners when asked to maybe not go to Disneyworld that year :frothingfash:

  • kristina [she/her]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    reminder, supporting ukraine is also uh, being racist towards ukrainians :very-smart:

  • Lymbic_System [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Imagine geting payed to post toilet time ideas after your first morning Joe and people have to respect what you say even if its completely nonsense.

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    We're minutes away from reading "Slavs can't control their emotions that is why we need Generalplan Ost 2"

    Also do they not know ukrainians are Slavs as well?

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      A reliable source tells me that they're the Rus who refused to mix with the locals. Therefore, they're the US to Russia's Latin America, and therefore our kindred spirits!

      /jk obviously but I still feel dirty for repurposing the legit reasoning the Nazis used to ally with the Croats for this joke.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Also do they not know ukrainians are Slavs as well?

      No, for all appearances they do not.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Holy shit its not even a joke anymore, we're two weeks away from hearing the phrase 'Slavic brainpan' on cable news.

    • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Honestly, at this point i can see certain newscasters or other media personalities saying that purely for provocation's sake. Just like this woman, they probably wouldn't fully believe it themselves but would work it into a conversation anyway just to cause outrage and "defuse" it with their fading neoliberal charm

  • The_Ancestor [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :barbarian: Barbaric rage and unrelenting savagery make for a powerful ally.