cat-trans

  • BountifulEggnog [they/them]
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    2 months ago

    Woah, that's a ton at once

    Yea, sorry for the trauma dump 👉👈 I was feeling pretty bad last night.

    I have been, the stuff that's not visible + face and neck. It's just social fear. I don't want people to make comments.

    I don't know, maybe some cis guys feel the ways I do. Sure sometimes I hate it (or at least parts of it) but sometimes I don't. Maybe I'm just a cis guy who likes some more feminine things.

    I don't really have any bottom dysphoria, which seems like a big one. I remember watching a contrapoints video (I know I know) and she mentioned that transwomen don't "use" their penis the way men do. And I kinda want to. If I was born without one I don't think I'd have any great pull towards getting one, but I also don't want to get rid of it necessarily.

    I feel like these feelings happened/were noticed too late. Like if I was trans, surely I would have known once puberty started up or maybe even as a teen, but now I'm past both of those things.

    • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      No worries you are okay meow-petted

      Okay cool, very nice. Fwiw I've never had anyone comment about my body hair, although I do wear long sleeves a lot. If someone does, just tell em it's aerodynamic, like swimmers do.

      Okay but cis guys never "hate it" though, I'm certain of that. I don't think you'd be here, you know?

      Oh man fuck Contrapoints, she's ridiculous, she's a sad /tttt/ user with awful ideas about everything. An enby-exclusionary transphobe to boot. What the fuck is "using" a penis the way a man does? Does this mean trans women aren't allowed to have insertive sex, because if so I have bad news for half this thread, and I'm also a fake trans, lmao. Benefit of the doubt, I'll assume Contra wasn't generalising, but there are no rules about how trans people can use their sexual anatomy. (Also nobody has any right to pass judgement on how anyone uses their sexual anatomy) There are tons of transfemmes who happily enjoy insertive sex. Your view of your bits does not make you less trans. Presence or lack of dysphoria does not make you less trans.

      Trans people realise they are trans at many ages in many different ways, observe @EstraDoll@hexbear.net who just realised she is trans like two months ago. I might be a teenage transitioner, but without running into certain books I'd have probably transitioned way later. My wife transitioned in her 30s. The idea that trans people just know from childhood is a myth perpetuated by gatekeeping health "care" "professionals" for whatever stupid fucking reason. Gender is hard though, and it takes everyone different amounts of time and internal consideration to realise. Coming to know that you are trans in your 20s, 30s, 40s, or even later does not make you less trans.

      My comrade in christ ohnoes I hope you are doing okay meow-hug

      • EstraDoll [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        Trans people realise they are trans at many ages in many different ways, observe @EstraDoll@hexbear.net who just realised she is trans like two months ago.

        more like 7 weeks lmao. I'm still a zoomer but I'm a grown adult, which means i'm transitioning at like, a little older than average if I had to guess (I have no idea what the average age to transition is) but like, regardless of how long it takes you to realize, the eggy ass thoughts were always there. There are a lot of trans people out there who didn't figure it out until much later than me. There's even this one absolutely adorable photo of a trans woman at the top of r/transtimelines (which is bad for my mental health and I should not look at that sub again for a long time) who didn't transition until she was sixty seven. It is absolutely never too late!

        Oh man fuck Contrapoints, she's ridiculous, she's a sad /tttt/ user with awful ideas about everything. An enby-exclusionary transphobe to boot. What the fuck is "using" a penis the way a man does? Does this mean trans women aren't allowed to have insertive sex, because if so I have bad news for half this thread, and I'm also a fake trans, lmao. Benefit of the doubt, I'll assume Contra wasn't generalising, but there are no rules about how trans people can use their sexual anatomy. (Also nobody has any right to pass judgement on how anyone uses their sexual anatomy) There are tons of transfemmes who happily enjoy insertive sex. Your view of your bits does not make you less trans. Presence or lack of dysphoria does not make you less trans.

        and it's funny you mention that because I think one of the reasons it took this long for it to click is that I just don't have any genital dysphoria. I wouldn't say I love them but I like them and I want to use them. In a weird sense I think of it as something of a privilege because of how few other women can claim that. It is a little inconvenient because taking the no-op route basically means that there are a handful of fashion choices that are going to take some extra work to pull off, if I can at all but like... eh. (god i wish i could just wear the leggings and nobody cared)

        • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 months ago

          Probably 25 if I had to guess? Idk. Hello zoomer :) sorry for the @

          I do think that not figuring it out till way later isn't mutually exclusive with looking back and going "oh, egg behaviour", not universal but not uncommon. Imma keep it real w/u chief, I love our trans elders. Literally always happy to hear about my trans siblings finding themselves at any age ❤

          I hate that so much, the narrative that bottom dysphoria is a requirement for being trans. It's dumb and it's fake, like there have been nonop trans people since there have been trans people. Also honestly, after hearing some cis women talk about wanting one... maybe it sort of is in a weird way? Trans superiority!!

          But yeah same re: fashion stuff, I just wear jeans for convenience...

      • BountifulEggnog [they/them]
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        2 months ago

        meow-hug I'm doing okay right now, overall this is not fun though.

        hmm. Maybe I'll give it a try at some point. I don't want to go the whole summer hating my legs so shrug-outta-hecks what else is there to do.

        Its hard for me to imagine someone always liking their gender and all that. Like who isn't a little very jealous of women.

        I know she is, but idk. Sometimes she made sense to me. I'm surprised its that common, I feel like I've seen a lot of transwomen complaining about not wanting to perform penetration and their partners wanting them to.

        cw for brainworms around transwomen's genitals (is anyone surprised at this point)

        So obviously I don't care what transwomen do with their bodies, and if they want to keep the penis, that's up to them. (and iirc like 90% do?)

        But like, as if it wasn't bad enough for women to have a penis how can a woman be okay with that? Its so... unwomanly. And that's really me? A transwoman who some how is okay with the whole penis thing? That's just... odd. It doesn't make sense to me. If I like the penis I must be a guy, but at the same time I'm pretty sure I'd hit a button to magically change my gender from birth and all that. Its just so confusing ohnoes It makes me feel like a man pretending to be a woman.

        I have been watching her transition sicko-wistful she seems very happy and brave. Thank you for sharing your story. I know you don't "have" to know from when your a child but it still feels very weird to me.

        • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 months ago

          meow-hug

          Yeah shaving your legs is awesome, feels great. I haven't in ages but I might do just for fun, Idk. I tend to yeet all my body hair maybe once every eight or nine months? Weirdly I don't really mind the body hair but for its curliness, which makes it bunch up and stand out.

          Lmao, I know right?? Surely everyone wants to be beautiful lady! It Is Known!

          She has said good things, she's not a total brainworm pit, but I'd turn a critical eye to anything she says. Unsurprisingly societal connotations around having a penis and the expectations that come with it mean that a lot of trans women get fetishistically pigeon-holed by anyone they have sex with, which is awful. I've seen people talk here about how they both do not have bottom dysphoria but also hate it when every partner they have expects them to top. Not having bottom dysphoria also is not equal to always having insertive sex.

          my comrade in christ....

          No it's fuckin not, there are tons of women who in fact do not have a vulva. Secretly, sexual anatomy is only gendered because cis people, the majority sadly, have chosen to conflate gender and genitalia 1:1, it's how they "decide" a baby's gender and get it wrong so often. They do this because as cis people their gender is aligned with the one they were assigned at birth, and in not changing their bodies at all they keep the genitals they have. But one size does not fit all. Also that 90% stat is probably down to the inaccessibility of bottom surgery.

          But yes, a woman can have a penis, a man can have a vulva, hell very rarely people are born with something more ambiguous. Some people get surgery to have both, which is incredible. You sometimes hear cis women talk about how it would be cool to have a penis, which doesn't automatically make them a man. The association of sexual anatomy with gender only exists due to the dominance of cisgender people, which has been enforced very violently over the course of our history. Certain gatekeepy medical "professionals" will get arsey with you if you say you don't want bottom surgery, because they must uphold the cisnormative social order. It's harder to keep their strangehold on cishet gender, which helps feed the machine of capitalism with workers, if people are running around questioning the dogshit assumptions they have put in place. Society drives these cisnormative assumptions into you from birth, which is insidious and hurts people and is part of why that shit must be stopped.

          Why is a penis inherently male? Just because most people born with one are men? Ridiculous; if the penis belongs to a woman, she is still a woman, and the penis is female, same in reverse for anyone with a vulva, and of any gender. You are not pretending to be a woman, if you say you are one, you are, regardless of what is in your pants.

          As a footnote to all of this, read The Gender Accelerationist Manifesto which is an awesome synthesis of trans/queer theory and leftist theory. Great read.

          We love our trans comrades, don't we folks? ✨ I really adore seeing people go through transition and feel good about it, warms my heart.

          No prob, and it's like anything else I guess, you could switch careers or realise your sexuality isn't what you thought or become a hardcore leftist or change your gender, any time in your life. Life comes at people at different speeds, and we're always changing.