Bad takes everywhere. https://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/110g3mf/i_mean_americans_like_to_criticize_their_own
Everyone knows that the predominantly English speaking site never gets manipulated by the US, a predominantly English speaking nation with an otherwordly military budget and spy agencies which have carte blanche to do literally anything, and have NEVER lied to their citizenry in the past.
Just because so many people log on to reddit from that one airforce base and Virginia means nothing.
Only evil peoples with unusual brainpans try to manipulate Americans.
These people are fucking dumb
Lots of people here seems to like these two extremely popular guys with large followings. This is very suspicious.
They’re still angry about SuccDem gramps? Even after he folded? Huh.
Not like she was a highly unpopular neolib warmongering ghoul or anything
Shit, I'm still hearing about Nader from some brain broken Dems two decades later
Meanwhile none of them will blame :jeb: or :no-oil: for stealing the election in plain sight, or the Supreme Court justices appointed by their father who ruled in favor of Bush in Bush v Gore when they should have recused themselves for the obvious conflict of interest
Hillary not having as many terminally online supporters was one of the few points in her favor, and you just want to take that away from her?
How-about those damn Yankees? They just can't help meddling in everything that isn't their business
This is unironically why Americans don't have healthcare
They're too busy worrying about shit like this, and rallying with Ukraine flags rather than rally for healthcare and livable minimum wages
It's wrong that you punched me, and bringing up the fact that I punched you several times first is a whataboutism.
Does that mean that you think there are situations where violence is called-for?
Yes, like stopping you from continuing to punch me.
SUCH HATRED :porky-scared: SUCH BLOODLUST!
Blaming the oppressor is denying the agency of the oppressed, sweaty
Redditors are so fucking obsessed with the idea that reddit is full of Russian/Chinese propaganda and I've genuinely never seen any outside of a few comparatively small subreddits (anti Russia/China propaganda, on the flip side, is fucking everywhere).
Yeah the only ones that could be considered pro-China is r/sino and r/TrueAnon and a couple small tankie subs that haven’t been banned or quarantined
No sub is really pro-Russia
Why doesn’t the US just fix those problems instead so china and Russia can’t distract us from their misdeeds
lol, anyone taking odds that this was posted by an agent of some American org. or other doing exactly what they are accusing "the bad people" of doing?
Somebody pointed out that protesting outside the rulers homes is actually illegal in the US lol and they said "yeah but you can do it outside the white house though"
Edit: which now that I think about isn't really true, you can do it outside the fence around the white house but that's like more than a football field away from the actual building, so that's another way the US fails this guy's made up standard.
The Rulers in the US don't live in the White Houses. And you'll never get within a dozen football fields of their homes.
Ignoring their dumb, preconceived notions about how China actually operates, it’s amazing to me how this brave redditor’s conception of freedom and democracy begins and ends with flinging impotent insults. Yes, I’m sure a homeless guy in an American city feels so free when he can call out Brandon or Cheeto Man.
Reminds me of when the Iraq war veteran (now PSL member) Mike Prysner chewed out Bush in public and was forcefully escorted out, all while Bush, with a smug expression, said something along the lines of “you have a right to your opinion”. There’s a reason why they allow us to “speak our minds”, up until the point it threatens them (McCarthyism).
AES states often can't have US-style freeze peach because the CIA will leverage it into regime change via wreckers. In the US, it's not current a threat to power. If we were ever in a situation where free speech actually threatened power in the US, you can be absolutely certain that right would be revoked and probably clamped down harder on than any AES state ever has.
In Br*tain the regime's security forces are arresting and intimidating protesters for holding up blank pieces of paper near Charles the Turd.
Xi would have you arrested immediately but only to spare you from the embarrassment and the rest of the world from cringe, because that's the type of homie he is
freedom is when your choices are just for show and have no actual consequence
do crime
get court summons
dig up dirt on judge
bring it all up during trial
accuse judge of "whataboutism" when he insists on keeping the discussion about my crime
get off scot free
Did you miss how the period of US dominance has been one of the most peaceful and prosperous eras in world history? How much poverty has been relieved over the past 50 years around the globe? Or are you going to continue to say that being a great power is inherently evil
Losing my mind here.
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US dominance has included a ton of wars, deliberate immiseration of whole countries (leading to mass civilian death) and coups which put genocidaires in head of state roles.
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Most of that poverty reduction is from Communist China. Super slimy to use it to argue for American benevolence.
Apologies for the Star Wars reference but I'm sure the galaxy was a peaceful place when the Empire has it's boot firmly on every planet.
the template in the minds of empire apologists is ancient Rome, but the difference is Rome imposed a certain order, whereas American empire is premised on instability to justify permanent militarization of large swathes of the globe. Submission isn't enough, we require suffering.
But it's good for amerikkka, and by that I mean the select few who own everything and will never experience pain ..and by golly do their boots taste good to redditors.
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Isn't the simplest solution to this invented excuse of 'whataboutism' to admit wrong on both sides? To speak of both equally? For example:
"We were wrong to invade other countries"
"We have to never invade others"
"We have to pay reparations for what we've done"
"We have to try our war criminals in court, or hand them over to the ICC"
There, do that and the so called 'whataboutism' becomes nothing. It's the simplest solution to 'whataboutism' that maintains the pretense of principle on the speaker's side.
Westerners believe they have the exclusive legitimacy to exercise genocidal violence. " We both are wrong but only you should dismantle and disappear while we strengthen and expand our violence."
There was some redsails article about how Americans are not gullible captives but willing collaborators and believers in the propaganda about the virtue of their country's violence.
The response is always "We aren't doing the bad things right now!"*
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the more common one i see is “two things can be wrong at the same time” sure but why is only one of them regularly on the front page of :reddit-logo:
Yeah, like okay, if both things are bad and there are already tons of posts about one of them, shouldn't we be all for people posting about the other to raise awareness? But no, at the end of the day it's national chauvinism.
