• Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    TBH if you look at the etymology of socialism and how it is used by Marx it makes sense. In the manifesto they talk about bourgeoisie socialism and feudal socialism. Utopian socialism is also a frequent subject of criticism for Marxists. Socialism is just organized society, the literal socialization of labor. However Marxists typically use "socialism", "proletarian socialism", and "lower-stage communism" interchangeably which is where the problem arises.

    Of course the average American won't understand any of that and just thinks that socialism is when the government does stuff.

    • VILenin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Socialism is when you give money to someone

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Socialism is when you keep stealing hardworking people's money to just hand wads of cash to the hordes of welfare queens until all the money is gone.

  • Virgil_Is_Dead [any]
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    4 years ago

    He's the only Yankee I've ever loved. Yet, despite how he's hurt me, I'll still back him. Like a god damn lib.

  • SchillMenaker [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I think MLK did his part too. I blame Americans for being too stupid to understand the actual story.

    • Virgil_Is_Dead [any]
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      4 years ago

      Oh yeah?😎 Well, as a 💯💯REAL💯💯🇱🇷 American🇺🇸 lemme just say this:

      You right, we dumb as hell.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      The Myth of MLK is so much more pervasive than the man himself.

      The education surrounding the civil rights movement begins with boycotts and ends when MLK dies (we mostly just get the picture of his compatriots on a balcony and the note that JFK died about the same time and shrug that's the 60s for you, crazy right?) You'd never know the 70s and 80s even happened, the way the movement is popularized in school and in the movies. MLK was just the nice man who wanted little black boys and little white girls to play together. The solution was the Civil Rights Act, which we got, because LBJ was nice enough to give it to us. And now Black People just need to work hard to catch up to where the White People are at. Maybe they need, like, Pell Grants or Business Tax Credits or something to help. But mostly they need to just pull their pants up and stop listening to the Rap Music, which MLK would have definitely disapproved of.

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      4 years ago

      It's almost as bad as when anarchists say "I don't want to live under an authoritarian dictatorship of the proletariat". I swear, if I see that one more time I'm calling the NKVD.

      • ned_ludd [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Famously not authoritarian institution, the NKVD

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          I'm calling the NKVD

          for real though, do you guys just not know what dictatorship of the proletariat is?

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Yay! My favorite simple explanation is "rule of the people". It's a positive thing that we as leftists should strive for, but I see a lot of people acting like it's something bad because of the word "dictator" in it.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            do you guys just not know what dictatorship of the proletariat is?

            Well, it has the word dictator in it, which is, you know... not great. Definitely needs a Frank Luntz message marketing overhaul.

            Lots of modern leftists tend to use the phrase "Democratic Socialism" to imply a kinder, gentler, happier proletarian government.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Socialism is when you give billions of dollars in taxes on working people to corporations that generate less profit than expected in one quarter.

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Yeh I remember the first time I saw him wheel that shit out in some debate or speech or whatever, extremely cringe.