https://ghostarchive.org/archive/HKkxx

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    98
    1 month ago

    What a complete lack of basic science education does to a mfer

    Politicians are like we need to compete with China meanwhile our people are over here like "one bird flu smoothie please"

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      54
      1 month ago

      Politicians are like we need to compete with China meanwhile our people are over here like "one bird flu smoothie please"

      Oh, man - did that make me laugh! But then I actually sighed. Fuck.

  • nightshade [they/them]
    hexbear
    64
    1 month ago

    (Not so) fun fact, there are several US states which prohibit the direct sale of unpasteurized milk, but allow the owner to drink milk from the cow, so they exploit the loophole by having buyers purchase a fractional share of the cow so that they can drink the milk.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herdshare

  • EstraDoll [she/her]
    hexbear
    62
    1 month ago

    by far one of the worst parts about living in the United States is that you're surrounded by these people every goddamn day

    • @blindbunny@lemmy.ml
      hexbear
      44
      1 month ago

      I honestly thought you were full of shit...

      cows that get sick with H5N1 begin producing milk that is thick and yellowish

      https://www.statnews.com/2024/05/08/bird-flu-in-milk-h5n1-levels-suggest-asymptomatic-cows/#:~:text=Initially%2C%20spotting%20tainted%20milk%20was,percentage%20of%20commercial%20milk%20products.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
    hexbear
    54
    1 month ago

    Gentle folk of Hexbear, I suggest investing in canned goods and shotguns over the short term

  • TheDoctor [they/them]
    hexbear
    53
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    Is there a place I can find a straightforward summary of the characteristics of this virus? Or is a lot of data collection being stalled by the CDC thus far?

    Edit: Why the fuck are we not doing wastewater data? The fatality rate in humans is 60% but with a huge fucking asterisk that milder cases probably aren’t being counted? What fucking use is that? So the fatality rate is “somewhere between 0 and 60 percent and who the fuck knows?”

    • utopologist [any]
      hexbear
      62
      1 month ago

      It's truly astonishing how the biggest takeaway from COVID rocking the US was that we just don't do public health as a concept anymore

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
      hexbear
      52
      1 month ago

      To avoid a panic. The CDC specifically told scientists that had developed wastewater tests for H5N1 not to start testing.

  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    48
    1 month ago

    China and Russia don't even need to do anything if plagues are gonna bring the empire to its kneessit-back-and-enjoy

    • @henfredemars@infosec.pub
      hexbear
      22
      1 month ago

      I get the joke, but talking more seriously, a pandemic disease outbreak anywhere in the world is a threat to all. I doubt it could be contained within one country.

      • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
        hexbear
        12
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        Yeah I know, especially with explosion of covid around the world. I just have a morbid sense of humor

      • Pentacat [he/him]
        hexbear
        1
        1 month ago

        Technically, if someone were to destroy all cars, aircraft, and boats leaving the country, the damage to other countries would be minimized.

        • @henfredemars@infosec.pub
          hexbear
          3
          1 month ago

          That could work as long as you have perfect enforcement including you having control over the ultra-wealthy, and nobody who's doing the enforcement is coming into contact with any debris.

  • barrbaric [he/him]
    hexbear
    44
    1 month ago

    Y'know I always thought Nurgle was the chaos god with the worst offer but I guess there are more plague enthusiasts than I thought.

  • edge [he/him]
    hexbear
    39
    1 month ago

    Other raw milk drinkers, such as Peg Coleman, a medical microbiologist who runs Coleman Scientific Consulting, a Groton, N.Y.-based food safety consulting company, claimed the government’s warnings have no basis in reality.

    How did this person get a degree?

    • CloutAtlas [he/him]
      hexbear
      38
      1 month ago

      Oh hey, I looked into this one when one of my friend's aunts went on about raw milk.

      So basically, she's done research on the microbiota of raw vs pasteurised milk and concluded the beneficial bacteria of raw milk can outweigh the risks for non-immunocompromised people. People can still get pasteurised if they wish. Another argument is that products with a higher fatality rate are still legal.

      However, the flaws in her research don't account for are this:

      • If huge corporations are allowed to simply not sterilise their milk, they will do so, meaning raw will be the cheaper product and therefore more likely to be purchased by the average person, who may or may not understand the risks involved. A struggling family doing their groceries will choose the cheaper milk and possibly put their elderly/infant family members at risk.

      • Her research is done with samples of raw milk that are a lot more controlled. The difference in risks between a sample of milk from a healthy cow directly into a sterile vessel into a lab environment is vastly different to milk produced en masse under capitalism, where cows are crowded together in battery farms, fed with the cheapest grains available, and milked with the same equipment that's milked a thousand other cows, and all the milk is pooled together where it's impossible to separate "safer" raw milk and contaminated milk from sick cows are then to be cooled and bottled. Her research simply does not account for the corners that will definitely be cut in an industrial capitalist scale

      • Dying from alcohol poisoning because you drank perfectly legal 180 proof alcohol is different to dying from H5N1 milk because alcohol poisoning isn't contagious.

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
    hexbear
    39
    1 month ago

    imagine if you will, the richest society on earth. now imagine it's so sick that citizens voluntarily try to give themselves novel avian flus.

  • Hexphoenix [any]
    hexbear
    37
    1 month ago

    What is it with people named McAfee being absolutely unhinged